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Football, What chances !, World Cup, Euro, Clubs, for all : home and away ! (FC)     

required field - 14 Jul 2010 13:55

It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

Stan - 29 Oct 2013 17:53 - 2181 of 6918

Home advantage yes that true, might swing it, good luck anyway.

Stan - 29 Oct 2013 20:38 - 2182 of 6918

0-0 HT, Burnley the better team and West ham a bit clueless going forward, keep our shape and Burnley can do this.

Chris Carson - 29 Oct 2013 21:41 - 2183 of 6918

Unlucky Stan.

Stan - 29 Oct 2013 21:43 - 2184 of 6918

Yeah thanks CC, Inexperienced management I'm afraid, still concentrate on the league as they say.

Stan - 31 Oct 2013 07:15 - 2185 of 6918

Out of the League Cup but still in this new one:

"Clarets make third round of U21 Premier League Cup: Report by David Hynds

ALEX Coleman’s last gasp heroics set up a tie with Sunderland in the third round of the U21 Premier League Cup.

The Clarets defender struck in the dying seconds of an absorbing tie at the Alexandra Stadium to complete a second half comeback that saw Ryan Noble cancel out the hosts' first half lead."

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I love these Youth/Reserve team games, Crewe and Burnley put on a very watchable and enjoyable match... And what a finish, brilliant!

Joe Say - 31 Oct 2013 07:59 - 2186 of 6918

Whilst you're doing well at the moment the fact you lost to West Ham who themselves are really only holding their own in the PL thanks to a lucky result at Spurs shows you the gulf you will need to bridge should you continue your current form and actually get promoted

Not forgetting of course, that that was a weakened West Ham team and not what they would label as their 1st

Stan - 31 Oct 2013 09:01 - 2187 of 6918

Thank you for your wise? words, but I'm afraid that is a typical ill informed remark based on little or no knowledge of how Burnley FC. (and clubs like them operate and their constraints)... For instance Burnley also put out a weakened team as well (not even mentioned), 5, 1st teamers to be exact so I will argue that nearly 50% of a team with a very small squad is more of an equal disadvantage then a pre-madonas team's changes like Wet Spam's.

HARRYCAT - 31 Oct 2013 09:09 - 2188 of 6918

Steady Stan! JS might be a West Ham supporter worried about having to face you guys next year!!!

Stan - 31 Oct 2013 09:11 - 2189 of 6918

No Harry, he's a Chelski bloke so we must make an allowance for such ignorance I suppose -):

Chris Carson - 31 Oct 2013 09:21 - 2190 of 6918

Prawn sarnie brigade Stan, they have no concept of the taste of a meat pie made in Lancashire. Or a cup of oxo/bovril at half time :O)

Stan - 31 Oct 2013 12:40 - 2191 of 6918

Indeed CC indeed... By the way I also wouldn't touch a meat pie at a football match either -);

Dil - 01 Nov 2013 01:52 - 2192 of 6918

"Mickey Mouse Cup where no fan or team give two sh*ts" ..... quote from Swansea fans when Cardiff reached the final and lost after extra time on penalties in 2012 to Liverpool thanks to Gerrards Liverpool supporting cousin missing for Cardiff !!!



They beat Bradford in the 2013 final and thought they won the World Cup ... bloody gypos :-)

Dil - 01 Nov 2013 01:56 - 2193 of 6918

Stan 2191 of 2192

Indeed CC indeed... By the way I also wouldn't touch a meat pie at a football match either -);



Threw a few at Chelsea fans in the 70/80's ... Cardiff pies were more solid ,denser and more scary than anything they threw at us :-)

Stan - 01 Nov 2013 15:25 - 2194 of 6918

Bleeding hooligan -): However back to the super team:

01 Nov 2013
VICTORY OVER QPR EARNS BURNLEY THE ACCOLADE

The League Managers Association five-man Performance of the Week panel, comprising LMA Chairman Howard Wilkinson, Sir Alex Ferguson, Joe Royle, Dave Bassett and Barry Fry, were in agreement that this week, the LMA Performance of the Week Award should go to Burnley following their excellent 2-0 home win over Queens Park Rangers in the Sky Bet Championship on 26th October 2013.

Burnley manager Sean Dyche will receive a specially engraved crystal football in a presentation to commemorate the award.

Danny Ings scored twice as Burnley took the honours in the top-of-the-table Championship meeting against QPR.

Burnley were the better side in the first half but QPR went close when Junior Hoilett had a shot blocked and Joey Barton sent an effort wide.

On 65 minutes, however, Ings played a one-two with Sam Vokes and fired past keeper Robert Green to put the hosts ahead.

Two minutes from time, Ings then scored a penalty after being fouled by Barton to end QPR's unbeaten league record and keep Burnley top.

Following the match Sean Dyche was full of praise for his players;

"I'm delighted with the tactical framework of the team, the effervescence of the team but most of all the quality of the team, which I was thought was excellent.

"The first goal was fit to grace most pitches, the pace of it and the quality of the finish.

"I thought we played really well first half and had some good half chances, but I said to the players at half-time that they'd have to go even harder because QPR are not an easy group of players to crack.

"However, to deliver that performance and win in that fashion, it's right up as one of my best days here."

Sean Dyche.

Chris Carson - 03 Nov 2013 10:03 - 2195 of 6918

By Graham Clutton11:10PM GMT 01 Nov 2013Comments4 Comments
The rivalry between Cardiff City and Swansea City has become so intense it is easy to overlook the fact that it has not always been like this.
Sunday’s game will feature a colossal police presence, not just inside the ground but also along the 40-mile route which divides the two cities in south Wales.
Such a serious security operation has been made necessary by the rivalry’s nasty recent history. Even media covering the match have been warned they may not be allowed in if they arrive less than 2½ hours before kick-off.
Yet while it is unlikely that any of the 27,000 supporters planning to attend tomorrow’s game were also at the FA Cup final in 1927, they might be surprised to know that hundreds of Swansea fans travelled to Wembley that day to cheer on Cardiff against Arsenal.
The same sense of Welsh solidarity had been evident in a far more serious context a few years before, when Lord Ninian, the MP who gave his name to Cardiff’s former ground, led a battalion from Swansea during the First World War.
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That sense of unity between the two sets of supporters is something Ashley Williams, the Swansea captain, knows well from his experience playing for Wales.
Yet when Williams is wearing the white of Swansea rather than the red of the country he captains, he knows the people of Cardiff will view him very differently.
Williams said: “It’s not nice but I’m used to it now. I think it’s natural. It’s not like I’m going to go there and play for Swansea and they will say, ‘Actually, he’s captain of Wales, so let’s not boo him’. I know if I go there with a Swansea shirt on, I’m going to get booed.”
Williams stressed he thrives on the intensity of the rivalry: “I enjoy playing in the derby games at home because you are in front of your home fans. However, it’s also nice to play away from home because you feel like you are behind enemy lines. You are there, they don’t want you there and they let you know that.”
The hostility which now exists first began to seem serious in the early Eighties.
David Giles, who played for both clubs during a 14-year career, knows what the feeling is like. Now a television and radio pundit, the Cardiff-born midfielder remembers well when he scored the winning goal for Swansea in the closing stages of the 1980 game at the Vetch Field. “I left the ground with a coat over my head so nobody knew who I was.” It was the safest way.
Through the Eighties, ill feeling between the two clubs began to overshadow the football. The rivalry was changing, as was Wales. Unemployment and strikes marred much of the decade and the unrest caused by the miners’ strike moved from the pits to the pitch.
As both clubs began to slide down the leagues, they met each other on the way. In 1987, there was serious trouble at the game at Ninian Park and the following year there was an incident which still resonates with fans.
After a day of trouble between the two sets of supporters in Swansea, a skirmish spilt onto the beach. It is said that some Cardiff fans retreated into the sea, leading Swansea to adopt the chant “Swim away”, which gave rise to some Swans fans wearing snorkels to the game when the sides last met, in February 2011.
There were dreadful scenes before and after the 1991 FA Cup tie and two years later violence again erupted in Cardiff when seats were ripped out of the Ninian Park grandstand.
Cardiff defender Jason Perry said; “There were seats being thrown and that was the dark, dark days of the derby. My wife was there. I was trying to be professional about my job but I had one eye on the grandstand.”
After that, the football authorities took the unprecedented step of banning away fans from fixtures between the clubs. Four years later, a plan was devised and the away fans returned. But they were only able to go on ‘bubble’ trips whereby away fans were escorted up and down the M4, to and from their destination. Sunday’s game falls into that category.
Those at both clubs are desperate that Sunday becomes a celebration of the first meeting between the teams in the elite division of English football for more than 50 years.
Cardiff City director Steve Borley said; “It’s amazing that you have two Welsh clubs who are the prime time four o’clock slot on a Sunday afternoon being beamed to 220 countries all the way around the world.”
Swansea City vice-chairman Leigh Dineen said: “It will certainly surpass anything we have ever known.”


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Chris Carson - 03 Nov 2013 10:17 - 2196 of 6918

Hey Dil, if Cardiff get beat try not to get locked up mate! :O)

Stan - 03 Nov 2013 15:24 - 2197 of 6918

Apart from the first 1/2 hour Burnley did quite enough to take the pts away at Millwall, with Arfield smacking one against the post late on... Still top 1 point clear.

Stan - 03 Nov 2013 17:03 - 2198 of 6918

0-0 at Ht from the match abroad...Gawd was that booooooooooooooooring -):

Stan - 03 Nov 2013 17:59 - 2199 of 6918

The Carduffers Cup Final is over... Well thank Christ for that -):

Chris Carson - 04 Nov 2013 00:35 - 2200 of 6918

From my seat: Spurs (H)
By Ken Buckley :: 03/11/2013
Comments (4) jump to end
Arriving at our Walton ale house soaking wet due to torrential showers, we were a bit deflated to start the day and, as things turned out, us and many more Blues would be a bit deflated at the conclusion of the day.
The room of nonsense soon filled up and most were of the opinion that, if we started as we left off at Villa, then second spot would be ours and just the Palace to come before another unwelcome International Break. Surely there is a better way of organising them? I suggested caution as Spurs had spent big and indeed, like us, a win for them sees them go second and threaten the Sky order. The day had a good start as one of our number won £20 on the card and, by the time came for the walk up, the sun was out and blue skies... an omen?

As we topped Spellow Lane, you could just tell this was a near sell-out. Queues at every outlet and none bigger than the queue to collect tickets. The Martinez effect is working to date. Our group dispersed to all sides of the ground and in our seats in plenty of time for a chat re all things Blue before Z-Cars rang out, after the ritual nonsensical handshake all gathered in the centre circle for the tastefully arranged ceremony which allowed us all to honour our armed services and the moment's silence was observed impeccably by both home and away fans.

The ref, Mr Friend (since his elevation to the Prem, he is anything but a Friend to us or many others — I wonder if this is why he doesn’t do Champions League games?) got us underway.

The Spurs fans were vocal and right away informed us and the authorities they will sing what they like and gave us a strong rendition of ‘Yid Army’. Their team started fast and soon had us pressed back and more than a touch nervy. The 10-minute mark arrived and sadly the ‘Chant for James’ didn’t materialise in any noticeable way. Shame that.

In that first 10 minutes, Sandro had a shot gathered by Howard. It was becoming clear early that Spurs had the upper hand and were pressing high and fast and forcing us into hurried actions which saw some gifted players making poor decisions and hasty passes that were just not finding another Blue shirt.

A look down on proceedings and it was clear that our line up translated into a 4-3-3 to try to counteract a big pacey Spurs outfit. It was starting to look grim for us as Spurs dominated proceedings but I was able to sense a ray of light as Barry started to calm our jitters with some good vocal work and some excellent work off the ball in closing down avenues available for the crucial pass that for those of you watching on TV may have missed.

Secondly, for all of Spurs' possession, they rarely looked like breaking our back-line down and getting anything meaningful on our goal. Where we were deficient in many areas, fast last-ditch closing down and throwing bodies in the way wasn’t one of them...

Vertonghen went down in the box from a Coleman challenge but, as you have to commit murder in the box to get a pen these days, our fears were allayed as our Friend (!) waved play-on. The next shot was again from a Spurs attack and the Evertonian Holtby caused Howard to safely gather in.

The half hour mark arrived and at last we had a meaningful effort when Osman found space and fired narrowly over. Next, the misfiring Mirallas took a free kick that favoured a right footer but it hit the wall and we got a corner that came to nought. As the last knockings of the first half were upon us there was a feeling that we were at last starting to get a bit of a hold due mainly to the astute play and vocal work of Barry. Nothing eye-catching but the sort of stuff that is invaluable when half the team are out of their usual form. It seemed some found it difficult to pass accurately over 5yds.

Half-time arrived and, whilst it had been virtually all Spurs, we were still 0-0 and all to play for. During the half-time break, we had the official announcement and applause for James. I admit to a tear as I pondered on a life so cruelly taken and, at the same time, my heart went out to a bus driver.

Second half and from the off we looked more up for it. A ball over the top had Lukaku using strength and pace to feed Mirallas who set off toward goal only to be thwarted by the excellent Spurs No 6. Having noted him in the first half, and he was continuing in the same vein this half, I referred to my proey to find he is a Romanian by the name of Chiriches. "Pity we didn’t find him," I mused... then back to the game.

More of the same was going on and as I had just used my proey I got to thinking that the club had announced that if I bought a proey I could buy the ‘programme Book’ for just a tenner. Guess what – they didn’t have any! Back to the play in time to see Pienaar have a strong shot from the edge of the box, hit a Spurs defender and floor him.

The game was becoming more open now; after that turgid first-half display, we were now looking more likely to nick it. It was Spurs now using the counter-attack method but Jags was having one of his better days and "Thou shall not pass" was his byword. A goal was looking less likely for either side as the minutes ticked so the Manager swopped Osman for Barkley and right away the move provided more impetus to our game.

He settled quickly and fired one just too high and just too wide but it was positive and galvanising. Coleman raided down the right and burst into the box and was hauled down by I think Vertonghen... "Penalty!!!" yelled the faithful, nailed on pen I thought but as he had left his man alive then Vertonghen got away with it.

Barkley’s benching seemed to have wound him up as he became more and more a force with surging runs and passes to players in the same colour shirt as himself but still a goal looked far away for both sides. McCarthy was now coming to the boil and he got in a whipped cross that Lukaku got too little on and glanced the ball across goal and wide Meaningful play was in bursts at best so Spurs made a sub and the sub at last gave Howard something to do when he punched away a cross.

Lukaku was put through on goal, the keeper ran out at speed, they both reached the ball simultaneously and collided in 50/50 fashion, both stayed down, our Friend booked Lukaku whilst he was on the ground getting treatment... why and what for? The keeper lay prone as medics and stretcher bearers appeared, sub goalie was readied but suddenly the keeper got up and waved away the stretcher and was being led off. Three times he stopped to argue with all and sundry and then trotted back to his goal to take the free kick — bizarre!

The mood of the faithful was now incandescent — especially as Lukaku was booked and the clown no action. "You’re not fit to referee" came rolling down the terraces as Lukaku was subbed due to a knock on the knee in the farcical episode. Deulofeu was on and Jelavic replaced Lukaku. The crowd again roared disapproval as the supposedly injured keeper punched away a shot from the Barca loanee with aplomb and distain.

Time ticked down as the game was now end to end but end-product from either side seemed as far away as ever. Sort of half chances and moves that broke down before a roar could leave a throat occurred up until the 90-minute mark and then the board went up with nine mins added — nothing of note happened until our Friend blew his whistle. Many stayed just to boo him off. Not the best of EPL refs but he wasn’t to blame for lack of serious goal threat from either team.

My MotM – Barry >

Overall, a match that will have many opinions proffered but I enjoyed it. We may not have been at our best but, even after disjointed stuff and poor passes, we still stuck together and made it hard for Spurs. We stayed positive and by the end I thought Spurs would have been more pleased with a point than us. I also got the feeling though that, even after a very good start to the season by both teams, winning or qualifying for anything may be too far for both of us unless more of a goal threat is found in games against other top teams that are tight.

It would be great to see off Palace and then find the necessary goal scoring touch to see off those from over the park...
Hopeful as ever.
UP THE BLUES
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Mike Doyle
952 Posted 03/11/2013 at 22:19:44 Agree with you Ken. Spurs are no mugs and, despite several below par performances (mentioned on the main match thread) I thought a decent game. Despite Spurs pressure in the first 30 mins, I didn't think we looked in danger of conceding - in fact Villa posed more of a goal threat last week. Conversely we didn't pose much of a threat to them either - a timely reminder that Lukaku needs a bit of support. Today's was a game crying out for a Tim Cahill. If only.
Steve Barr
953 Posted 03/11/2013 at 22:25:53 Ken,
I share your thoughts and summary in the penultimate paragraph.

I suppose my elated feeling at the final whistle was more down to the expectation of a thrashing based on the first half performance...or lack thereof!

However, I note there have been qute a few comments on this site regarding the GBP200million plus Tottenham has spent on bolstering their team this season versus the miserly spend that our illustrious board/shareholders has mustered in support of our challenge.

It would be nice if they could proportionately spend what we do as fans, but there you go.

Anyway, it is apparent that big spending doesn't necessarily equate to success, nor does it reflect the actual ability of the players who actually cost bucket-loads of money.

I concede that Man City has spent a fortune but seem to have acquired genuine top class players. Not so sure about Tottenham having seen them play a few times this season.

Haven't got a major point to make here other than outside the top 3 or 4 teams, good management, the right blend of players/skill sets, good coaching and a positive approach and great team spirit will put you right up there.

What I see so far from Everton puts us right up there, in spite of the misers controlling the purse strings!

COYBs

Julian Wait
957 Posted 03/11/2013 at 22:54:03 Thanks Ken.
We've seen a few of these "game of two halves" against Spurs in recent years. I also thought it was an absorbing game, albeit somewhat masochistic first half.
It was indeed hard to see what Barry was doing from TV, not that he did much wrong or went missing, but he was it seems stemming the flow. Not surprised to see him MOTM though as by most accounts almost everyone else had multiple moments of dodginess.

I would have taken a point before the game, begged you for one at half time, and yet remained disappointed with the point we got after the second half revival. All in all a microcosm of life as a blue :-).

Julian Wait
961 Posted 03/11/2013 at 23:14:22 And a question for those of us not privileged to be there; how much of a factor was the wind? Was it blowing to the Street End, and hence the relative dominance of each team each half (going with the wind...)?
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