goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
skinny
- 01 Mar 2013 06:49
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Fred -
Carillion wins new and probable orders of £650m
I guess terms such as "Although markets remain challenging," and "Probable orders" don't inspire.
Fred1new
- 01 Mar 2013 08:13
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Thanks, similar thoughts.
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Good by-election result at Eastleigh for UKIP.
Tories need a comedian, perhaps Boris.
cynic
- 01 Mar 2013 08:19
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much more sensibly than the above - it certainly shows that the general populace needs a lot of convincing that uk's future remains best served by staying with europe
however, is it my imagination or are not both labour and lib/dems pledged to stay in europe?
ukip may be a good repository for a protest vote in a by-election, but it is very unlikely indeed that they will score particularly well when it comes to the "real thing" in a general election
Haystack
- 01 Mar 2013 08:26
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At least Labour were pushed into fourth place. Just a bit above the 'Elvis likes pets' party.
Labour have the "we are not sure how we feel about Europe" cop out strategy.
Fred1new
- 01 Mar 2013 08:26
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Cynic,
Were you on your knees when you wrote your last post?
9-)
cynic
- 01 Mar 2013 08:26
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labour were never going to be anywhere else, so their vote can be discounted
cynic
- 01 Mar 2013 08:31
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fred - please elucidate
for myself, whereas i was very pro when we joined, i am now among the undecided and shall listen carefully to what is said when the whole matter is debated ..... i shall then decide which way to vote, but assuredly vote i shall, even if for the "least worst" choice - unlike you, who will probably stay sat on your arse as usual
Fred1new
- 01 Mar 2013 09:03
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Probably, I will dissent, which is my democratic right and continue to observe from my lofty post. I wouldn't want to lead anybody astray by voting for them.
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After a lot of huffing and puffing by some R and L wingers over details, I guess and hope, that after the present economic storm blows out, the UK will engage more, and integrate more deeply in the EU over the coming 10-20 years.
It will be economic and political (international) suicide for the UK, if we don't do so.
You can see this from what Europe is doing as far as some Banker regulations, etc. are concerned. Cameron, due to his previous belligerence, being seen as an outsider appearing more and more as an international Enoch. (Sorry Eunuch.)
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A method of diffusing one of the Banker's Salaries problems, maybe to pay the bonuses in shares which have to be held by the receivers for a 2-3-5 year period before being cashed.
This may concentrate their minds on the success of the corporations.
(There are difficulties, but maybe it could be made to work.)
TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:11
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conservative party get rid of human rights for illegal immigrants and terrorists
stop all benefits for immigrants stop all free health for illegals deport them
the same day they are arrested . or UKIP WILL DO THE JOB
TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:17
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over a 11000 in EASTLEIGN voted ukip about immigration numbers
TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:21
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immigration is only good for companys to employ cheap labour at the cost to tax payers funding the services for them .imigrants coming here to clean cars .
disgusting
wake up cameron get them out
TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:25
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It's been a good 12 months for Nigel Farage. His party is on the up, with good performances in by-elections in Corby and Rotherham. UKIP will expect to keep that going. Winning would have been stunning - the major breakthrough that's proved so elusive. It would have catapulted Farage, like a grenade, into the mainstream, breathing down the neck of many a marginal seat Tory MP. Beating the Tories was the goal here. If that meant coming second and pushing the Conservatives into a humiliating third place it would feel like a significant victory. The worst case would have been a Tory win with UKIP coming in third or fourth, failing to deliver the 20%+ support that the polls suggested it could expect. This was the first test at the ballot box of UKIP support since that big offer from David Cameron of a referendum on the UK in the EU. If evidence emerged that it had dented UKIP's support it could signal that the good times are over for the party.
What happened: The march of UKIP continues, Eastleigh was their best-ever election performance. They pushed hard on EU migration and an anti-establishment theme. They were the only ones to put on a significant number of votes. It's clear they are now the new "protest vote party". And don't ignore the fact they came close to winnin
cynic
- 01 Mar 2013 09:26
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in that case fred, your rattlings have about as much value as an old halfpenny ...... windbags like you are happy enough to stand on a soapbox and issue forth clouds of hot air about all that is bad with gov't or the world ..... however, if you don't vote, you fully deserve the worst of worst results, except unfortunately, your torpor affects the rest
at least (i am sure) MrT goes to the ballot box
skinny
- 01 Mar 2013 09:29
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TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:29
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the meat trail that can come from unknown places
well now they want the NHS to go the same way
thats the next scandal waiting to happen you could end up with a witch doctor if
the tory party have get there way
Fred1new
- 01 Mar 2013 09:39
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Tanker,
I did say welcome back.
UMMMMMM,
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Blame the Blacks, blame the Asians, blame the Jews, Welsh, Irish, those of the next village.
Scapegoat whichever minorities you dislike at the moment for past and present misgovernment and your own incompetence.
Bring the vigilantes back on the street. Get rid of Human rights. I, we are bigger and stronger than those who need those protections. (At the moment.)
Let the weak and unhealthy die on the streets. Let their bodies lie in the gutters.
Pity about the rotting flesh will be the petri dish for the fermenting of the disease which will continue to spread through society.
Pick on others, and others, and others. Kill them all, none are like us.
(If there is a god thank him.)
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TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:50
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fred. the reason they are here is for benefits anf free health services .
why should tax payers pay for them when the tax payers in he uk ae struggling
to get help them selves .
HAVE just been reading about bedroom tax it is disgusting they can not offer them smaller houses so it is just a tax on he poor .
if they can not offer them a smaller place then it stinks.
UKIP IS GETTING MORE AND MORE TORYS LIKE ME TO JOIN THE PARTY
so are we racists or of just had enough of being raped of our taxes to help immigrants
cynic
- 01 Mar 2013 09:50
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at least MrT is consistent with all his crap - and votes for the party he thinks offers the least worst option, whereas you stand on your soapbox amid clouds of steam and hot air, and then lie supine at home when it comes to going to the ballot box ...... that is exactly how and why the likes of BNP (i shan't say UKIP) gain power
TANKER
- 01 Mar 2013 09:54
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so am i a racist for wanting my country back .
if immigrants want to come to the uk to work and speak english
then that is ok but to come here and make ther own country here is not
if they do not want to be apart of the uk by speaking english then go home
Fred1new
- 01 Mar 2013 10:15
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Manuel.
I can see why some sad little individuals like yourself, append themselves to parties, with broken promises, failed economic policies, and persistent reflex U-turns, living in hope of being led to the promised land of false dreams .
Unable to stand back and observe, evaluate and consider, what is happening and more importantly why it has happened. Only able to mutter the same outdated mantras of their deluded false gods, continuing on the path which is leading them like lemmings over the cliff.
Good luck, you may need.
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(Jacques, was observant, reflecting much of himself and the crowd. The crowd didn't like the observations.)