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driver - 13 Jul 2007 16:32

Carter & Carter Group PLC
13 July 2007



Immediate Release 13 July 2007

Carter and Carter Group plc
Trading statement

The Board is disappointed to announce that Carter and Carter has been
unsuccessful in its tenders for Phase 1 of Pathways To Work. The delay in the
announcement of these tenders was due to approval being required by the newly
appointed ministerial team at the Department for Work and Pensions.

Carter & Carter had been shortlisted in all 15 Phase 1 districts, but has not
been selected as preferred bidder in any of the districts. We expect to meet
with senior Government officials shortly to understand this further.

Carter & Carter is shortlisted in four of the sixteen districts for Phase 2 and
tender bids are due to be submitted on 19 July 2007. Preferred bidders are
expected to be selected during September 2007 with operational delivery due to
commence in April 2008. The four districts in which Carter & Carter has been
shortlisted are worth 45 million over three years.

Carter and Carter has outstanding bids with the LSC in relation to the current
work based learning tender round and, to date, has been successful in several
bids where it is currently in post tender negotiations. A further update will be
provided in due course.

Elsewhere in the business, since the publication of the trading statement on 29
June 2007, the Group's June management accounts have revealed that our
performance in our construction training activities was lower than we had
previously expected. We are also now anticipating a lower level of achievers in
July across our apprenticeship programmes and, together, we expect that these
two factors will reduce Group profits in the year to 31 July 2007 by c. 3m. In
addition, in Train to Gain, enrolments in the first 2 weeks of July are behind
our expectations at 600.

These matters, together with the fact that we will now be expensing through the
profit and loss account our bid costs associated with our unsuccessful tenders
on Phase 1 of Pathways to Work, mean that the Board is now of the view that the
Group's adjusted profit before tax* for the year ending 31 July 2007 will be in
the order of 10.5m.

Carter and Carter confirms that it is in the process of renegotiating its bank
facilities to reflect these revised expectations.

Contacts

Carter and Carter Group 0115 945 7250
Rodney Westhead - Chairman
John Green - Finance director

Buchanan 020 7466 5000
Mark Edwards / Suzanne Brocks

* Adjusted profit before tax is stated before amortisation of intangible assets
and exceptional costs.



This information is provided by RNS

partridge - 14 Aug 2007 13:29 - 22 of 34

Not a holder, but months looks a long timescale for this business - likely to be very volatile until finances sorted (last sentence of RNS more telling than it appears). With huge long term debt at end Jan (87M) and modest historic cash generation, I would personally wait before considering a purchase.Always DYOR etc.

gordon geko - 24 Aug 2007 09:44 - 23 of 34

bought yesterday worth 250p imho with forward levels of profit
as always share price fell to far

driver - 24 Aug 2007 16:15 - 24 of 34

geko
I hope your right, still watching.

gordon geko - 30 Aug 2007 10:35 - 25 of 34

looks like their credit line still ok if they are still buying companies ???

scottinvestor - 20 Sep 2007 12:04 - 26 of 34

whats up now? its tanking

Fred1new - 20 Sep 2007 14:53 - 27 of 34

Similar request as 26. I can't see any news or change and I expected it to travel in oppoisite direction. May be Bear Stern have flogger recent buy.

Bought a few more at 77p.

partridge - 02 Oct 2007 08:56 - 28 of 34

Said in my post 22 that last sentence on the RNS was telling - once again cash (or lack of it) shown to be the single most important factor in business failure.

scottinvestor - 02 Oct 2007 09:33 - 29 of 34

whats likely to happen?

is this worth holding to after it starts again on stock market?

partridge - 02 Oct 2007 16:14 - 30 of 34

At the mercy of its bankers and not a good time to be seeking extra cash for the wrong reasons. By no means certain that its quote will be restored, but even if it is credibility likely to be shattered and existing holders shafted. IMO avoid companies highly geared - no margin for error if things go awry, as has happened with CART.

partridge - 10 Mar 2008 11:58 - 31 of 34

The end. Hope not many left in.

driver - 10 Mar 2008 12:17 - 32 of 34

Update

RNS Number:7288P
Carter & Carter Group PLC
10 March 2008





Immediate Release 10 March 2008


Carter & Carter Group plc
("Carter & Carter" or the "Company")

Update

The Company previously announced, on 15 February 2008, that it was in
negotiations with its lenders (the "Lenders") regarding a consensual
restructuring. The Lenders have informed the Company that this consensual
restructuring is no longer considered a viable option by them and negotiations
in this regard have now been terminated.

Following the termination of those negotiations, the Board has considered
alternative options available to it and has concluded that no viable alternative
option is available to meet its cash needs in the short term. Consequently, the
Company has today instructed its lawyers to file a notice of intention to
appoint administrators over the Company.

The Company will seek to work closely with the administrators, the Learning and
Skills Council and the Department for Work and Pensions to minimise the effect
on learners, clients and employees.

Ends



This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange

END
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driver - 11 Mar 2008 16:25 - 33 of 34

Commiserations to all investors that lost money here, never put all your eggs in as they say and I hope you didnt.

partridge - 11 Mar 2008 17:23 - 34 of 34

Some very good learning points for those interested in fundamentals. In July 2007, this company released trading statement that profits for year to end July 2007 would be in the order of 10.5M. Not too bad you would think, for a consistently profitable business, although a couple of weeks earlier, another trading statement suggested figure of 15.5M and growth of 15-20% expected for year to July 2008. So what went wrong? The writing was on the wall with the half yearly figures to January 2007. These showed a cash outflow from basic operations of some 1.4M against cash inflow from those same operations of nearly 8M in the year to July 2006. Add in cost of acquisitions and debt ballooned from 59M at July 2006 to 86M at January 2007. With balance sheet surplus of just 62M including 132M of goodwill they just had no room to manoeuvre. Excellent demonstration of a profitable business going to the wall - clearly loss of the founder in tragic accident in the Spring of 2007 added to their problems, but over aggressive borrowing (helped perhaps by over aggressive lending) was imo their downfall.
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