im trying to start day trading for a living and have read many books and have applied there ideas all of which have failed.So my question is what is the best couple of indicators to use? any advice appreciated on this matter

Snip,

Have you tried Updata P&F charts either for day or swing trading? I believe they are the best available would but would like to hear it from a practioner.

Also heard lots of bad things about Updata but also that they have improved greatly in recent months.

Would appreciate your views.

Regards
Harlosh.