Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Thanks 3m. I know where you were,Hay there are some beautiful blue bell woods in that area . Rw's old house (9 acres of garden and 15 odd of pine forrest surround it, which will be carpeted in blue bells soon, beautiful. Spectacular views of blue bells all in the forrests that run back to Stansted. A beautiful part of the country.

I thought Cameroon had a bright idea when he "promised" a EU referendum in 2015 and may have defuse part of his looney right, but it appears the electorate don't think much of his "promises".

What are his next set of promises?

Interesting for some:

Swiss referendum 'backs executive pay curbs'
Daniel Vasella, chairman of Swiss drugmaker Novartis There was outrage in Switzerland over a $78m pay off, later scrapped, to the outgoing Novartis chairman

Swiss voters appear to have backed proposals to impose some of the world's strictest controls on executive pay, projected referendum results suggest.

Some 70% are thot to have supported plans to give shareholders a veto on compensation and ban big payouts for new and departing managers.

Business groups argued the proposals would damage Swiss competitiveness.

But analysts say ordinary Swiss are concerned about a growing economic divide in the country.

The vote comes just days after the EU approved measures to cap bankers bonuses.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21647937

Referendums on emotive topics like that mean very little and government should ignore them. For a instance, if there was a referendum for bringing back capital punishment it would produce a huge vote in favour.

i was very pleased to read today that, very belatedly, the tories are at least thinking about not allowing immigrants free use of the NHS for the first year, except for emergencies and antenatal care .... at least that would shut one hole in the sieve

Hays and Manuel,

Do you think that the recent results shows true tory grit and support for the leadership.

Read that the majority of the tories "think" Cameron and Boy George are deluded and flocking to UKIP. Even here the money is travelling with some of them. They rest would like to stick the knives as soon as they can, but when they look around there isn't anybody inept enough in the party to replace them.

(Maybe there is a chance for you Hays. 8-)


Forgot, there is always Boris.

Bring on the clowns, can see the trio of Cameron, Boris and Beppe Grillo.

The only thing is that while Beppe Grillo has become a politician, Cameron and Boris have become comedians with support of the rest of the cabinet.

If they weren't b. the economy it would be funny.

Almost, feel like voting for Nigel.

Sorry, that is a mistake, I meant Nigella.

Just hiding behind a hoody.

Take an extra pill today. :-))

Cynic,

When the tories finish off selling the NHS, nobody will be able to use it.


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In general I would think the majority of immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria will be in their 20-40s and that group tend to use the Health Services for Acute conditions.

But again stopping the others with "chronic" conditions will help the general public, especially if those needing treatment have TB or similar.

Perhaps he is addressing himself or is in a Fauxpage.

I am going now.

8-)

so vote them out next time around instead of sitting on your arse pontificating; you can then tell us how well "your lot" whoever that happens to be, is performing either in gov't, or opposition or even in limbo having gained no seats

Manuel,

Never have felt the need to belong to any group or be a camp follower in order to feel validated, but it is agreeable when the majority seem to have similar opinions to myself. It seems that the majority in the local elections were dissenters and recorded their opinions accordingly.

That is democracy for you. Glad it doesn’t live up to your “standards”.

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Hays,

You are advertising your own fears.

Must be down to the crowd you mix with.

In my youth I swallowed quite a lot of mild and bitter. The right proportions at the right time has made me what I am.

Aye, a TXAT :O)

history shows that it is apathy and faux intellectual superiority - it's so infra dig to support ANY party; none of them deliver what i want and so on and so forth ad nauseam - that allows extremist factions of all hues to gain power

I think we have an extremist government in power at the moment and the hierarchy appeals to it own mob.

so VOTE then .... i don't remotely agrere with your last statement (i think it's total nonsense) and i might disagree with your general political stance (you don't really have one), but that does not mean i would not press you to VOTE