Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i was very pleased to read today that, very belatedly, the tories are at least thinking about not allowing immigrants free use of the NHS for the first year, except for emergencies and antenatal care .... at least that would shut one hole in the sieve

Hays and Manuel,

Do you think that the recent results shows true tory grit and support for the leadership.

Read that the majority of the tories "think" Cameron and Boy George are deluded and flocking to UKIP. Even here the money is travelling with some of them. They rest would like to stick the knives as soon as they can, but when they look around there isn't anybody inept enough in the party to replace them.

(Maybe there is a chance for you Hays. 8-)


Forgot, there is always Boris.

Bring on the clowns, can see the trio of Cameron, Boris and Beppe Grillo.

The only thing is that while Beppe Grillo has become a politician, Cameron and Boris have become comedians with support of the rest of the cabinet.

If they weren't b. the economy it would be funny.

Almost, feel like voting for Nigel.

Sorry, that is a mistake, I meant Nigella.

Just hiding behind a hoody.

Take an extra pill today. :-))

Cynic,

When the tories finish off selling the NHS, nobody will be able to use it.


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In general I would think the majority of immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria will be in their 20-40s and that group tend to use the Health Services for Acute conditions.

But again stopping the others with "chronic" conditions will help the general public, especially if those needing treatment have TB or similar.

Perhaps he is addressing himself or is in a Fauxpage.

I am going now.

8-)

so vote them out next time around instead of sitting on your arse pontificating; you can then tell us how well "your lot" whoever that happens to be, is performing either in gov't, or opposition or even in limbo having gained no seats

Manuel,

Never have felt the need to belong to any group or be a camp follower in order to feel validated, but it is agreeable when the majority seem to have similar opinions to myself. It seems that the majority in the local elections were dissenters and recorded their opinions accordingly.

That is democracy for you. Glad it doesn’t live up to your “standards”.

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Hays,

You are advertising your own fears.

Must be down to the crowd you mix with.

In my youth I swallowed quite a lot of mild and bitter. The right proportions at the right time has made me what I am.

Aye, a TXAT :O)

history shows that it is apathy and faux intellectual superiority - it's so infra dig to support ANY party; none of them deliver what i want and so on and so forth ad nauseam - that allows extremist factions of all hues to gain power

I think we have an extremist government in power at the moment and the hierarchy appeals to it own mob.

so VOTE then .... i don't remotely agrere with your last statement (i think it's total nonsense) and i might disagree with your general political stance (you don't really have one), but that does not mean i would not press you to VOTE

Shan't!

8-)

I wish the government was a bit more 'extreme' as you put it. A clear Conservative majority would enable some better policies. I would worry a lot more about Labour extreme ideas.

Hays,

Interesting.


I think this government has cocked up so many policies that they haven't got time to remedy them before the next election.

Also, there will not be enough cash left in the kitty to bribe the public, which they have done in the past.

The cost of university education, the inability of graduates to pay off their debts and buy houses etc., the probable costs involved with health care, “social services”, “local services” and to insure against private care, etc. will come home to "Middle England".

As well as the above, many other problems created by a still failing, or staggering economy due to inappropriate cuts in some areas and too late an investment in "infrastructure" will become more obvious.

At the moment, my fears are, at the next election there will be a Labour government with too large majority will be followed by an immoderate backlash as a response to many of the stupid and immoderate cuts and policies that they see the this tory led government has introduced.

I would prefer another coalition government, but this time of Lib/Lab and at the moment expect that to occur. (The electorate may be more generous to Lib/Dems than many have expected and may be seen as buffers to the tory extremists.)

Many hoped in the 1980's with the formation of the SDP and later amalgamation of that group with the Liberal party that it would lead to more moderate inclusive centralist party. It failed to materialise due to the egos of certain politicians and tribal allegiances at that time.

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Interesting to watch.

fred - for once, i agree with most of what you have written .... however, it has certainly been generally accepted, even by the labour party, that when they were kicked out of power, the coffers were worse than empty ..... nevertheless, i think i am right in saying, that the present crew's claim to be reducing the deficit (or along those lines) is being more than economic with the truth; the deficit is just growing at a slower rate.

for all that, the eurozone has been and remains such an unmitigated disaster, that continuing economic problems for uk have been unavoidable .... would they have been less had the purse strings been loosened? ..... short-term maybe, but in my fairly non-partisan opinion, at the cost of much worse a little down the line

cynic if you want a bit on the side the polish girls are sluts go down to your local weathspoons full of them after a free meal fact not fiction .
opened my eyes the local lads having afield day .