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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

robertalexander - 15 Jul 2008 17:22 - 2214 of 21973

Cynic,
In fairness I am playing with sensible stakes and stoplosses as if it were real money as I hope, if I can maintain the 'luck', to eventually play with real money.
:)
Alex

robertalexander - 15 Jul 2008 17:35 - 2215 of 21973

have spotted a flaw in my logical plan ...long wallst.[ in 11034 with a stoploss 10950] short on ftse [in 5198]
these two move reciprocally and so one must lose money so closed out wallst for 11032 for 8 loss] though as it stands ftse is currently 60 down]

is my beginner's luck beginning to wear off :(
Alex

TheVoid - 15 Jul 2008 18:16 - 2216 of 21973

SEC to Outlaw Naked Short Selling and Prosecute Traders who spread false rumours - this might make a difference in the way shorters operate

SEC To Outlaw Naked Short Selling

spitfire43 - 15 Jul 2008 22:43 - 2217 of 21973

such a nervous market today, unfortunately out so unable to trade, but the fall this morning was so fast it would have been past my trading support lines, so not giving me an entry for the first time in a month.

I wonder at what point we may see some bargain hunting, looking at some of the bank volumes today, most but not all had more buyers than sellers.

robertalexander - 16 Jul 2008 11:15 - 2218 of 21973

todays plays. overnight on wall st and ftse both bummed out as stop losses kicked.
went long on HSBC[in 721] still long on RBS [in 165] and ITV[in 40.9] thoough am showing losses at this time. not a good day for playing i think.
current strategy leave indices alone and stick to shares as slightly less of a gamble. i live and learn something new every day
Alex

required field - 16 Jul 2008 11:19 - 2219 of 21973

The way things are going we shall (for ftse 100) be in the 4900's....soon...unbelievable !.

required field - 16 Jul 2008 11:23 - 2220 of 21973

Adding to my previous post we must pray that there is not a complete meltdown...1929 wise.....oh dear !, that would be good for nobody except for people who do nothing but short !.

HARRYCAT - 16 Jul 2008 11:58 - 2221 of 21973

Complete meltdown!!! Why?
"In 1929, the Fed raised interest rates several times to cool the overheated stock market. By October, the bear market had commenced. On Thursday, October 24 1929, panic selling occurred as investors realized the stock boom had been an over inflated bubble. Margin investors were being decimated as every stock holder tried to liquidate, to no avail. Millionaire margin investors became bankrupt instantly, as the stock market crashed on October 28 th and 29 th. By November of 1929, the Dow sank from 400 to 145. In three days, the New York Stock Exchange erased over 5 billion dollars worth of share values! By the end of the 1929 stock market crash, 16 billion dollars had been shaved off stock capitalization."
I don't see any sign of panic selling, just the start of harder times. That's life. Bull runs don't last forever.

cynic - 16 Jul 2008 16:16 - 2222 of 21973

meanwhile, nymex bulls are getting badly burned ..... dropped $6/8 the other day and down another $5 today to $133.70

ahoj - 16 Jul 2008 16:20 - 2223 of 21973

oil companies are gaining the most. 2600 bopd adds 100,000 a day to DGO profit.

cynic - 16 Jul 2008 16:23 - 2224 of 21973

that's a drop in a bucket ...... to make a decent impact even on a minnow, it needs another digit

ahoj - 16 Jul 2008 16:27 - 2225 of 21973

for you, maybe. but another 100k a day is not bad.

cynic - 16 Jul 2008 16:33 - 2226 of 21973

if you say so, and though DGO may well have a good future, 2600 bopd is not going to make a lot of difference.

meanwhile
Dow really struggling to break up through 11100, so i hope we don't see a big sell-off later on

robertalexander - 16 Jul 2008 16:52 - 2227 of 21973

still long on HSBC[in 721] still long on RBS [in 165] and ITV[in 40.9] [my sensible plays]

my running diary is not intended as a bragging sheet more a means of letting more experienced players see what I am 'trading' and possibly passing constructive criticism to help me should I decide to try it for real. As the risks of losing real money are great I feel it is a wise move to play with pretend money first.

Alex

hightech - 16 Jul 2008 16:54 - 2228 of 21973

Some of the stocks had to go down. Index is meaningless.

cynic - 16 Jul 2008 17:03 - 2229 of 21973

???????? ..... sorry, but fail to understand the point you are trying to make

cynic - 16 Jul 2008 20:44 - 2230 of 21973

at long last ..... a decent evening on Wall Street .... currently +250 at 11210

HARRYCAT - 16 Jul 2008 21:12 - 2231 of 21973

I agree. A brief respite. Currently at 11222.
Sorry to be pessimistic, but more downside to come, imo.

dealerdear - 16 Jul 2008 21:23 - 2232 of 21973

A rally at last!
Dow finished at highest levels for the day which is a sign of further upside. Is this really the long overdue rally (even if only a bear one) we are waiting for?

required field - 16 Jul 2008 21:36 - 2233 of 21973

The basic problem is that modern societies are too dependant on oil as a means of power and the world needs to change this....oil will always have its use but the human race must hurry up the alternatives....and governments must encourage this with tax breaks for solar, hydrogen, wind, etc.....what does this government offer in incentives.....precious little.....usual muck ups (sorry about the political bit) but they really have not got a clue as how to run this country !, and you have to ask will the next lot be any better ?.
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