goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 20 Mar 2013 17:18
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Was this budget an apparition, or aberration from a failing hologram chancellor and representative of an expiring coalition which aspired to govern?
From the number of comments made on about it, it has gone down like a lead balloon.
Haystack
- 20 Mar 2013 17:39
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I liked it very much. I have seen quite a few positive comments. Even Mr Cable liked it. Labour's views on the budget are about as silly as you would expect.
skinny
- 21 Mar 2013 06:50
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What is it about Australian women, even those born in Wales -
Australian PM Gillard wins leadership vote unopposed
greekman
- 21 Mar 2013 07:17
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I know the House of Commons is like a kids classroom, but yesterday Ed Miliband went well over the top with his jumping up and down, waving his hands shouting, 'Is the prime minister going to gain from the 45% top tax rate, come on, come on, hands up, hands up anyone in the cabinet put your hands up if you are, or nod, come on nod'.
This went on for far too long and was so pathetically childish, that it was clear many on his own benches were embarrassed
Just think, that if Labour win the next election, this idiot could be PM.
One thing I would like to see on Budget day would be an opposition budget, as all that happens in the current system, is the opposition go through their regular name and policy calling.
skinny
- 21 Mar 2013 07:32
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If you want a laugh - Ed Balls on R4 NOW!
Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 10:06
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Here is a more painful laugh!
What amuses me about the budget is that once again the public purse is coming to the save the bacon of the failing capitalism, by bailing out the “private” economy.
Also, when many put the blame the failing of economy down to the overinflated housing market and “greedy” money being poured into it, the present government is stimulating this circle by directing money into “private” hands for private profit, rather than the stimulating “construction” being under local government and therefore back into the local and then general economy.
Also, the public purse could retain the some of the “value” of the “investment”, if done in this way and not make it susceptible to inflationary debt. Osborne is betting on
inflation to bail him out.
The old economic cycle is likely of being restarted, by Osborne’s actions.
dreamcatcher
- 21 Mar 2013 10:10
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I see you have got up perhaps more up off the floor after watching Ed Balls. Lol
Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 12:00
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Dreams,
It interests me why individuals, who would claim to be mature, still believe in the fairy tales they are told by their “dear leaders”. Perhaps, your self-enlightenment may cause a realistic depression
When is the economic recovery going to take place?
Is the con head office is putting it back again to 2030?
I suppose it will be after they run out of U-Turns.
Cameron’s ducking and weaving with the Leveson report seems to have help the press’s opinion.
Laughable!
What did he expect?
Another ride with/ Rebecca?
I do find it laughable that Osborne thinks he can buy the beer drinking public for a penny a pint.
They may be daft, but they are not that daft.
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But, I have to admit the tories have been good for my finances.
Haystack
- 21 Mar 2013 12:08
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It was more than a penny a pint, because there would have been a rise. He has also removed the automatic price rises on beer. Petrol duty rise cancelled, corporation tax drop, national insurance cuts, no tax on £10,000 income plus quite a few other nice measures. Nice budget with a pathetic response from Labour
skinny
- 21 Mar 2013 12:39
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Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 13:00
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Hays,
Buy the end of this government period of occupation the £10000 will be worth £7500.
Ie. the punter even with increases in pay will be paying a higher percentage of their income.
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I am not sure about the value of other "tax" cuts, but I certainly think the governments disposal of tax income should be revised and as said before go by a slightly different route into the general economy.
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The labour party are learning from the con party to make "populist statements", but reading the press to-day (tory press), it in general considered the budget as a failure to address correctly the present UK's problems.
Haystack
- 21 Mar 2013 13:02
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You must have a special way of reading newspapers or just read the wrong ones.
Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 13:07
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Skinny,
Long live the Le Trefle.
Haystack
- 21 Mar 2013 13:52
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I see the new 105th head of the English fairy believers is being installed and enthroned today. Another head of a different group of fairy believers was confirmed a few days ago in Rome. It is amazing how these strange ceremonies get on the news.
tyketto
- 21 Mar 2013 15:01
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Religion.
Live in hope.
Die in despair.
Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 16:00
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Hays,
It is more interesting why you have a low tolerance of "religions" and "beliefs systems" of others.
Rituals are interesting, but as long as you aren't expected to conform to them what does it matter?
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Haystack
- 21 Mar 2013 17:00
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How long a list of how it matters do you want?
Haystack
- 21 Mar 2013 17:14
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Here are a few
Religious schools are treated as charities costing tax payers
Children are indoctrinated from a young age
We have bishops as part of the House Of Lords legislating for us
Religious bodies influence our laws
Churches are allowed to have charitable status, but are really businesses
Religions have caused and continue to cause wars
Creationism is taught in some religious schools
We still have Sunday trading laws because of religion
The C o E is officially part of our establishment and has undue influence.
Some religious schools teach intolerance of the British way of life
There are religions that operate in the UK that subjugate women
Fred1new
- 21 Mar 2013 18:43
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Seems like inheritance laws need fundamental change.
Seems to me, if you change the nomenclature of a few institutions, clubs and of the memberships some of those clubs, that the methods of infusion (parenting) have many similarities and the dogma and the reasons for the dogma are just as influential and no more based on reality than many religions.
Probably, the major religions and those engaged in disseminating their beliefs have done less harm to others than the non-adherents, the latter, as a group, often seem to have less "reason" for their "existence" and have avarice at heart, often going on their knees to Mammon.
As I have said to before I am an atheist, and although I often tease believers, I respect their rights to their beliefs and institutions.
Modification of "authority", if it is disproportional, could be addressed at the same time as real reform of Parliament, voting system, the House of Lords and other inherited forms of rights
dreamcatcher
- 21 Mar 2013 19:04
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Fred, lol sorry cannot stop laughing . You should of been a comedian - a entertainer who tells jokes, a person who performs comedy. :-))