Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Here are a few

Religious schools are treated as charities costing tax payers
Children are indoctrinated from a young age
We have bishops as part of the House Of Lords legislating for us
Religious bodies influence our laws
Churches are allowed to have charitable status, but are really businesses
Religions have caused and continue to cause wars
Creationism is taught in some religious schools
We still have Sunday trading laws because of religion
The C o E is officially part of our establishment and has undue influence.
Some religious schools teach intolerance of the British way of life
There are religions that operate in the UK that subjugate women

Seems like inheritance laws need fundamental change.

Seems to me, if you change the nomenclature of a few institutions, clubs and of the memberships some of those clubs, that the methods of infusion (parenting) have many similarities and the dogma and the reasons for the dogma are just as influential and no more based on reality than many religions.

Probably, the major religions and those engaged in disseminating their beliefs have done less harm to others than the non-adherents, the latter, as a group, often seem to have less "reason" for their "existence" and have avarice at heart, often going on their knees to Mammon.

As I have said to before I am an atheist, and although I often tease believers, I respect their rights to their beliefs and institutions.

Modification of "authority", if it is disproportional, could be addressed at the same time as real reform of Parliament, voting system, the House of Lords and other inherited forms of rights

Fred, lol sorry cannot stop laughing . You should of been a comedian - a entertainer who tells jokes, a person who performs comedy. :-))

Where do you get your jokes from, they seem one offs. lol Never heard any of them before.

Haystack,

I must question your opinion of how Religion indoctrinates people.

As a youngster I attended the local Baptist Chapel for several years and in no way was I indoctrinated, so my advice to you is this,

Get down on your knees, face Mecca, say 100 Hail Marys, attend a couple of Holy Communions and of course give all your worldly goods to the poor like all good Christians, that way you may attain repentance.

Actually I learned quite a bit about the bible during those years and came to an early conclusion that it was just, 'One big story book'.
I only continued to attend for the sole reason I could spend half my collection money at the local sweet shop.
Can't see that getting me into his good books, mind you I intend to repent all my sins just before I go as you can't beat hedging your bets.

Funny how sun worshipper were/are ridiculed, when the facts are that without the sun, we would not exist, whereas people see nothing strange about believing and praying to a being that they can't see or prove exists.
My belief is that if all people followed the true meaning of most religions, the world would be a better place, but many take religion for their own ends and use it as an excuse to do inhuman acts.

Me, I will stick to sun worship, if it ever comes out, thats the one with the dancing in the woods, surrounded by a few naked virgins! and I always remember that it is better to give than to receive.

Hope to see you at our next orgy, sorry I mean meeting of worship.

My sentiments entirely, Greekman, Except for the dancing. Too cold and wet for that here and I'm not really into virgins!

Hi Maggie,

As true virgins are in short supply round my neck of the woods, we do have a few experienced ones.

NOTE....We don't do much dancing!

tony blair babys being born in iraq with deformatives from bombs hope you are happy . but i doubt you will lose sleep .

Don't you just love this country! 'Ex-gay' London bus advert ban ruled lawful

A good court decision for once. The upholding of the ban stops a bigotted Christian group suggesting that being gay is a condition that you can be cured of. Yet another reason to add to the list of why religion is a bad thing.

Are you suggesting only Christian groups are homophobic?

No, but this particular one seems to be.

Or that homophobic groups shouldn't have a voice or "right" to "object" or to canvas for changes in "law"?

You really are being really stupid now. Perhaps you wouldn't mind Neo Nazi posters on our buses.

sedgfield 4pm race no 6 will win 4.1

going well one circuit to go

bloody second

so you lied again ...... bloody illegal celtic immigrants; never believe a word they say :-)

Fully agree Haystack.

I first saw the bus poster on the BBC news a couple of months ago and remember thinking that it was a stupid thing to allow.
Mind you there have in the past been many examples of religion being intolerant (I though tolerance was supposed to be a Christian philosophy), IE burning of witches, now that was intolerance at its best!

If your last few posts have been replies to Fred (on my squelch list for years now), they are a waste of time as all he is, is a wind up merchant best ignored!

Hays,

I wouldn't like it, but I would not attempt to prevent such posters, unless they were likely to incite others to violence or other illegal acts.

I have seen many very "ugly" posters, which I disliked and preferred that they had been self censored.

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On the previous postings, I would prefer state funding and allowances only for state run "secular" schools.

Those who wish their children to attend "Faith" or other "Privately" run schools would be able to do so, but the cost of doing so should not be borne by, or subsidised by the state in any way.

That would not interfere with what I would be the rights of the individual.

My children are their 40s and 50s and when I reflect back remember that they did have periods of private education and tuition, which for various reasons I was prepared to fund.