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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 10:03 - 22525 of 81564

cynic MT did not like eastern europeans she loved the germans
that is why we loved her

Fred1new - 27 Mar 2013 10:40 - 22526 of 81564

Hays,

When the coalition got into power, they damned as much of and as many of the previous government’s policies and actions, as was possible.

They demoralised the country by painting out how “black and hopeless” everything was, presenting a scene where they could assert their right winged ideological of austerity is “good for everybody”, of course other than for themselves.

(There was need to cut back in some areas, but not at the rate which it was being done. There was a need for a thought out period of consolidation with modification of organisation, rather than slash and burn.)

However, I think they made the mistake with what they have done in thinking that the slash, burn and disorganisation would allow them to have and expansionist period with a politically motivated giveaway budget in the last 6-12 months of the regime, i.e. prior to the next election.

I think their expectations may have been blown out of the water, partially due to world wide “recession”, “demoralised” business and industries not being prepared to invest and develop, because of their lack of faith in the present coalition policies and the uncertainties they are causing by ill-thought out production of rushed populist policies.

(Look at employment figures and GDP, even without deliberate distortion, they don’t add up.)

It seems to me that they are accumulating the results of the products of the “austerity” policies which will kick in during the last 6 months of the coalition government. The effects of which will not only hit home to the “poorer” groups of society, but also be felt by many so called “middle income” groups. (Pensioners are not unaware, or isolated from the younger members of their families.)

Disillusionment due to false promises with increased dissatisfaction with “public and social services” by those utilising them and others providing them, may result in a large swing of voters to the labour party.

I think that Milliband, knowing that he had 5 years to reorganise the labour party and think out future “policies” and “dogma”, is probably utilising the period “sensibly” and keeping his powder dry, not knowing what the carnage this government will leave behind. The fixed period government has been useful for labour, to analyse their mistakes and regroup.

(You said you played chess, it seems you may have concentrated too much on openings moves and tactics, at expense of the middle game and overall strategy.)
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Dreams,

I thought your head would be more like a balloon.
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Cynic,

"dil - it may (or may not) surprise you that i have a mind of my own .... my parents never discussed politics at home either, so no guidance or brainwashing (as you like to insist) from that quarter :-)"

Perhaps, your parents may have been more subtle than you appear to be.

Tanker’s post contains the reason why many think that the latest Osborne wheeze may end up inflating the housing market prices and stimulating another sub-prime market, and provide the stimulus for more rapid inflation.

If the money had been directed too more rapid building of “social housing” under local government control then it may have helped to provide a more direct stimulus to the local economy and into the general economy.

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cynic - 27 Mar 2013 10:49 - 22527 of 81564

sorry fred, for though i would not dream of squelching you, i really can't be bothered to read your stuff ..... as i have now said ad nauseam, you are just an armchair critic who can't even be bothered to vote for the least worst option, but will continue to sit and whinge and whine incessantly - a dog would be put down for less :-)

Fred1new - 27 Mar 2013 11:00 - 22528 of 81564

Manuel,

I still enjoy your well thought out repetitive whining responses.

{:-)

Haystack - 27 Mar 2013 11:05 - 22529 of 81564

cynic
I didn't read it either.

cynic - 27 Mar 2013 11:05 - 22530 of 81564

we're both happy then lol!!

Fred1new - 27 Mar 2013 11:09 - 22531 of 81564

Boys,

Do you know that it doesn't matter, whether you read it, or not.

As is said "you can take donkeys to water, but you can't make them drink".

Haystack - 27 Mar 2013 11:16 - 22532 of 81564

You can see why David Miliband decided to leave the UK.

cynic - 27 Mar 2013 11:16 - 22533 of 81564

but some confuse iron pyrites with gold

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:24 - 22534 of 81564

this government is a government of LIARS .filling there friends bank balances
by taking it away from the poor. and the disabled and pensioners
that about sums up these LIARS .
OSBORNE THE LIAR i do not benefit from the 50p cut and he said this in the commons .
they have lost my familys and friends votes .

vote UKIP

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:36 - 22535 of 81564

the police can now not be respected taking bribes selling info to papers
the whole uk is a cesspit of corruption
T MAY blaming the BORDER CONTROL when the problem is all down to the EU
vote UKIP AND GET US OUT OF THE CORRUPT EU .

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:38 - 22536 of 81564

t may loses abu qutada again
put him on a plane today not tomorrow you silly woman
or resign
kick out the human rights it is only for criminals not for discent people

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:41 - 22537 of 81564

JORDAN should take legal action against the EU courts over accusing them of
being a unfit country to have legal rights .

skinny - 27 Mar 2013 11:48 - 22538 of 81564

Government loses Abu Qatada appeal

Home Secretary Theresa May has lost her appeal against a ruling preventing the deportation of radical cleric Abu Qatada.

Last year, the Special Immigration Appeals commission said the preacher could not be returned to Jordan.

Judges say he could face an unfair trial involving evidence obtained by torturing others.

The Court of Appeal ruling means that Mrs May faces releasing the cleric just two weeks after detaining him.

It is unclear at this stage whether she can take the battle further to the Supreme Court.

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:49 - 22539 of 81564

what is the point of T MAYS job when she has no power .

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 11:50 - 22540 of 81564

put him on a plane today .

Fred1new - 27 Mar 2013 13:04 - 22541 of 81564

If Abu Qutada is so dangerous (rather than being offensive), I cannot see why he cannot be tried, under current law, in this country.

If found guilty, then sentenced and imprisoned, if necessary.

This would be a lot better and cheaper than the flapping about and grandstanding of Teresa and cohorts.
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Hays,

Whatever, you wish to call the bedroom tax, it will be seen by many of the public as a TAX.

The majority of the effect should be apparent befor the next election,

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One definition of a tax is : “A compulsory contribution to state revenue,” the above will be that via. the local purse.

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 13:34 - 22542 of 81564

fred i would just put him on a one way flight he is a terrorist .
as for the bedroom tax it is a disgrace and i am notpoor very well off
it stinks and this gov will be kicked out in 2 years they are just LIARS
AND THIS IS BEING SAID BY A RIGHT WING TORY MYSELF
now UKIP

TANKER - 27 Mar 2013 13:37 - 22543 of 81564

the judges should be tried for treason and have i the right
to take them to court for putting my family under threat .

doodlebug4 - 27 Mar 2013 13:58 - 22544 of 81564

He's not actually out on bail at the moment Tanker, that was actually rescinded as he had broken some of his previous bail conditions. So your family is not technically under threat at the moment while we are still paying for him to be locked up.
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