goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 16:58
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I like Ian Duncan Smith. The petition is just a ploy by left wing activists and supporters of the Very Silly Party (Labour). The Silly Party is the Liberals.
hilary
- 03 Apr 2013 16:58
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Why? It's a pathetic petition, brought about by scroungers who want something for nothing!
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:01
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Kevin Maguire@Kevin_Maguire
Vile Product of Welfare UK: axeman IDS takes £135,000 from TAXPAYERS, gets a CHAUFFEUR and lives FREE in wife's £2m
cynic
- 03 Apr 2013 17:04
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and the guy who raised the question is on £156 pw .... and i bet HMRC and benefits office will be putting him under the microscope too
what other notional benefits, if any, would attach to this notional £56 pw?
housing? .... if so, that would include council tax
i'm 90%+ sure i could feed myself pretty well for £20 pw and that includes tea, bread, milk etc
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:05
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I D Smith a drain on tax payers receipts.
Dont forget the person who set up the petition is a self employed striver, in fact a self employed trader who votes conservative but believes IDS is hitting the disabled and worthy poor and is a man who lives of his wife Betsy welfare.
cynic
- 03 Apr 2013 17:07
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IDS takes £135,000 from TAXPAYERS, gets a CHAUFFEUR and lives FREE in wife's £2m
why should he not?
please advise for what he receives his £135k .... it sounds like more than just ministerial pay.
as a minister, he'll assuredly be entitled to a chauffeur - it goes with the job
why should he not live free in his wife's house, its value being totally irrelevant
sticky - you're losing the plot
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:07
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IDS gets a chauffer because he is a government minister. Where he lives is his own business.
I smell the rancid odour of the politics of envy once again.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:11
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Cynic you ass, the £53 quid is after council tax and any housing benefit. You would have to find money for your energy bills, TV, insurance, ground rent, leases,telephone,transport, stationary, medical bills, care bills, etc etc and then find money for food.
Its OK saying I can do this for a week, could you do it for 52 weeks or more and dont forget the social exclusion that would come about because of your position.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:13
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By the way Ive got haystack and hilary filtered and have for about 3 months. Neither of them genuine people to my mind.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:14
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leases, ground rent, medical bills
Lost the plot
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:16
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Just love being filtered. It stops stupid replies to my posts from lefties.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:33
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Cynic, come on now get your facts right.....
The MP, who earns £134,565 a year as a Cabinet minister, insisted he could live on £53 a week after a 51-year-old market trader told the BBC that he gets by on the meagre sum.
The CHAUFFEUR is allowable expenses but is frowned upon by Tory big wigs who put pressure on minister Simon Burns to use the train rather than a CHAUFFEUR before xmas.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9964767/Iain-Duncan-Smith-I-could-live-on-53-per-week.html
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:38
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A DRAIN ON TAX PAYERS along with other MPs from both parties who screwed the system only a year or so ago.
When will theTory idiots of the right learn.
Probably at the local elections next month when they get Annihilated.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:47
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I suspect that gf knows almost nothing about IDS. He founded the Centre for Social Justice, which had its headquarters in south London near to Westminster. It was set up to study the causes of poverty in the UK. They have done a huge amount of work helping poor people. I have been to several meetings there a few years ago. The benefit reforms set out by IDS are his attempts to streamline the benefit system. He is a genuine person who cares about the poorer section of society.
http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/about-us/history
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:53
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By the way there are several Labour MPs on its council including David Blunkett.
Fred1new
- 03 Apr 2013 17:56
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Hiliary.
What do you do for your living?
Gambling in the market is to many a parasitic occupation..
What is actually produced by it.
I would think Manuel's and your alcohol bill is more than £53 a week.
I wonder who does more overall good for society, Hays, Hiliary, or a nurse
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Signed,
Another parasite.
dreamcatcher
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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Fred
I am sure you know that the market is necessary to raise capital from shares. The follow on from that is that there then needs to be a market to trade those shares. So a trader is part of the process of funding companies in their capital growth plans.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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A NURSE.
cynic
- 03 Apr 2013 18:02
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Energy bills
True, but can be minimised by wearing a(nother) sweater ..... we never have our heating at home above 18
TV
assume you mean the licence .... how much is that?
Insurance
For what?
Ground rent
Would not apply
Leases
?????? are you bonkers?
Telephone
Minimal on pay-as-you-go so long as you ensure people call you rather than the reverse
Transport
to where?
can generally be done on foot or bus or similar
Stationary
standing still costs nothing
Medical bills
NHS
Care bills
not applicable
seems to me that most of the costs you mention do not apply, though you did forget the cost of the month in the caribbean