goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:07
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IDS gets a chauffer because he is a government minister. Where he lives is his own business.
I smell the rancid odour of the politics of envy once again.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:11
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Cynic you ass, the £53 quid is after council tax and any housing benefit. You would have to find money for your energy bills, TV, insurance, ground rent, leases,telephone,transport, stationary, medical bills, care bills, etc etc and then find money for food.
Its OK saying I can do this for a week, could you do it for 52 weeks or more and dont forget the social exclusion that would come about because of your position.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:13
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By the way Ive got haystack and hilary filtered and have for about 3 months. Neither of them genuine people to my mind.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:14
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leases, ground rent, medical bills
Lost the plot
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:16
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Just love being filtered. It stops stupid replies to my posts from lefties.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:33
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Cynic, come on now get your facts right.....
The MP, who earns £134,565 a year as a Cabinet minister, insisted he could live on £53 a week after a 51-year-old market trader told the BBC that he gets by on the meagre sum.
The CHAUFFEUR is allowable expenses but is frowned upon by Tory big wigs who put pressure on minister Simon Burns to use the train rather than a CHAUFFEUR before xmas.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9964767/Iain-Duncan-Smith-I-could-live-on-53-per-week.html
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 17:38
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A DRAIN ON TAX PAYERS along with other MPs from both parties who screwed the system only a year or so ago.
When will theTory idiots of the right learn.
Probably at the local elections next month when they get Annihilated.
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:47
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I suspect that gf knows almost nothing about IDS. He founded the Centre for Social Justice, which had its headquarters in south London near to Westminster. It was set up to study the causes of poverty in the UK. They have done a huge amount of work helping poor people. I have been to several meetings there a few years ago. The benefit reforms set out by IDS are his attempts to streamline the benefit system. He is a genuine person who cares about the poorer section of society.
http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/about-us/history
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 17:53
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By the way there are several Labour MPs on its council including David Blunkett.
Fred1new
- 03 Apr 2013 17:56
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Hiliary.
What do you do for your living?
Gambling in the market is to many a parasitic occupation..
What is actually produced by it.
I would think Manuel's and your alcohol bill is more than £53 a week.
I wonder who does more overall good for society, Hays, Hiliary, or a nurse
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Signed,
Another parasite.
dreamcatcher
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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Fred
I am sure you know that the market is necessary to raise capital from shares. The follow on from that is that there then needs to be a market to trade those shares. So a trader is part of the process of funding companies in their capital growth plans.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 18:01
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A NURSE.
cynic
- 03 Apr 2013 18:02
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Energy bills
True, but can be minimised by wearing a(nother) sweater ..... we never have our heating at home above 18
TV
assume you mean the licence .... how much is that?
Insurance
For what?
Ground rent
Would not apply
Leases
?????? are you bonkers?
Telephone
Minimal on pay-as-you-go so long as you ensure people call you rather than the reverse
Transport
to where?
can generally be done on foot or bus or similar
Stationary
standing still costs nothing
Medical bills
NHS
Care bills
not applicable
seems to me that most of the costs you mention do not apply, though you did forget the cost of the month in the caribbean
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 18:04
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The ones who do the most good are the business people who generate enough wealth to pay for nurses and certainly NOT an individual nurse.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 18:10
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Stop being silly cynic.
Why dont you do it then??????????????????????????????????????????.
You said you could do it for less then £53 so come on then show us you can manage for a year on £53 or are you all mouth and no action??????????????????????
We already know id Smith hasnt the balls to even try out a week.
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 18:11
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AND.......
Three days until 13,000 Millionaires get a tax cut of, on average, £100,000. Please RT pic.twitter.com/DNihTy33sn
goldfinger
- 03 Apr 2013 18:16
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By the way you need transport costs and staionery and a tele to find a job these days and sign on.
Ground rent and leases insrance if your unemployed living in your own home.
Prescription charges and care costs for the disabled and sick, these arent all paid by the state these days.............. it appears you and your right wing freinds are totaly out of touch.
cynic
- 03 Apr 2013 18:49
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now you are muddying waters ......
you are talking about me as a singleton, so without dependants etc etc, so care and prescriptions are (as i said) totally irrelevant
actually, i don't think i have to pay for my prescriptions now i'm over 65 .... is that not correct?
why do you need stationery?
if it's a few bits of plain paper, then the cost is effectively zero and most stuff can be done and submitted on line
ground rent?????
insurance??????
that's rubbish
if you like, i'll certainly work out a menu for you at £20 a week including bread and milk etc.
i'll need to find the time to do it, and i'll have to make 1 or 2 (reasonable) assumptions, but i bet i'm not far off the mark
Haystack
- 03 Apr 2013 19:37
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gold finger is quoting the Labour/socialist mantra about tax cuts for millionaires. The reality is that the 50p tax was introduced by Labour on April 6 2010 and the election was on 6 May. Labour made no attempt to have a 50p tax all those years they were in power. They introduced the tax to prove their anti wealth credentials to the electorate and create a rod for the Conservatives if they won the election.