bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
potatohead
- 30 Nov 2006 15:38
- 22727 of 27111
yes that one has been tried already, let me see, its been Macdonalds. takeover, cocacola and now as these have not worked to pump the price up you are trying a new rmour..
yes well we know where this is heading, schroders are dumping.. its been obvoius
.0050p soon!!!!
greekman
- 30 Nov 2006 15:49
- 22728 of 27111
Potatohead,
I am not trying a new rumor.
I just thought it worth mentioning due to the previous tie up between ASDA and FERNDALE.
I do believe there will be a contract relatively soon, if I didn't I would have sold.
If/When such contract comes, I doubt it will be announced prior to some sort of news leak. With companies the size of the possible contenders, Asda/Walmart etc, it's very difficult to keep everything under wraps.
I am not ramping this share, just looking for any little snippet of info trying to detect any sort of clue where we are heading.
StarFrog
- 30 Nov 2006 15:57
- 22729 of 27111
GM - Ignore PH. 'Pot calling the kettle black' springs to mind (see ERX thread).
'News tomorrow' is his warcry!
greekman
- 30 Nov 2006 16:10
- 22730 of 27111
SF,
Cheers GM.
potatohead
- 30 Nov 2006 16:17
- 22731 of 27111
ACTUALLY THERE IS NEWS TOMORROW ON ERX.. RESULTS OUT TOMORROW ;-)
stockdog
- 30 Nov 2006 16:50
- 22732 of 27111
Wasn't there a story about Northern Foods dumping SEO unceremoniously last year some time?
Forgive me if this is totally wrong, but we've have an SEO / Northern Foods connection somewhere in our history I am sure.
Sorry, no time to research.
potatohead
- 30 Nov 2006 17:03
- 22733 of 27111
well i said this would go to 1.2p when these were 2p.. but you have had no news, schroders are offloading.. so sub 1p easy
bristlelad
- 30 Nov 2006 17:27
- 22734 of 27111
spud enjoy your SHORT/
tweenie
- 30 Nov 2006 18:16
- 22735 of 27111
fear the coming of the great peeler
AdieH
- 30 Nov 2006 19:18
- 22736 of 27111
Logic dictates this is going to .8p same as last listing..... Alot of newbies and novices been caught out on this one, dangerous game, you cannot trust the board of SEO to deliver anything... they have products but cannot deliver contracts, if they were on the Dragons Den they would not have got the Dragons to part with their money...
bhunt1910
- 30 Nov 2006 19:19
- 22737 of 27111
Another 2 weeks for contracts imo
Falcothou
- 30 Nov 2006 21:31
- 22739 of 27111
Must be coming down the chimney to do it
EWRobson
- 30 Nov 2006 22:21
- 22740 of 27111
From time to time the SEO thread has suffered from either rampers or de-rampers. I still see the tendency from those who do not accept that we are in a new era, scenario, whatever. By this time next year SEO will be seen as a stable share, with a stable set of products, with stable contracts in stable markets. The sp will depend on the nature of those contracts and the analyst evaluation of the projections for the business. How would I know the value of the company then? What I am confident in is that Schroders do have sensible projections now or will have when they have completed their appraisal, reviewed the proposed contracts with the various Corporations and put the plans in place. I am confident that that value will be significantly more than the 0.8p paid for their 14% or so holding (including Pension Funds). I object to ph putting out disgraceful comments about Schroders selling off their holding - has he had any contact with Schroders or know how they operate? It devalues a thread like this when people shoot their mouths off with no foundation.
My comment about averaging down, as sd picked up, is no more sensible than reducing the cost of a rising share by taking profits. My point is, though, that it is easy to hold a share that is falling, hope that it recovers to its buy price and then sell out with relief when you break-even. My suggestion is that there can be opportunities to buy at lower prices that have the effect of averaging down but which are justified for their own sake. I am more likely to make money in that situation than switching my attention to a share that I do not know as well.
Eric
pinnacle
- 30 Nov 2006 22:43
- 22741 of 27111
excellent post EW
May the force be with us!!!
stockdog
- 30 Nov 2006 22:56
- 22742 of 27111
Eric "no more sensible than reducing the cost of a rising share by taking profits". Taking money off the table is always real and tangible and often sensible. Quite the opposite of averaging down.
Tonyrelaxes
- 30 Nov 2006 23:47
- 22743 of 27111
My POST OF THE DAY award goes to -
- (fumble with envelope)
- ( cough to clear throat)
- (pause for added effect)
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- 22740.
greekman
- 01 Dec 2006 07:15
- 22744 of 27111
ERIC,
Well said. A well argued, sensible post.
And I am not, before the bashers get posting saying this because I agree with all your comments.
To those that disagree, fine, argue your case in a similar way to Eric's post, this is what makes a thread worth reading.
We all gain from good well founded, fact or opinioned posts, positive or negative.
Stockdogs comment,"Taking money off the table is always real and tangible and often sensible. Quite the opposite of averaging down". is also a valid statement.
bhunt1910
- 01 Dec 2006 08:18
- 22745 of 27111
From iii
Walmart score card clearly shows starpol products
http://www.scorecardlibrary.com/sustain-caps.swf
follow the demonstration and on pop-up 14 or so starpol products are clearly identifiable in the biopolymer section ( and are the only brand name in the section )
oblomov
- 01 Dec 2006 08:29
- 22746 of 27111
Whilst I have great respect for Eric and his posts over the past year or two, his post number 22740 is really no different to other posts I've read over the last year or two. I've made similar posts myself at times, we all have.
At the time we made them, we believed them - as I'm sure Eric does now - but history now shows that we were wrong in our expectations and our predictions didn't turn into reality. Eric's is a fine post on the face of it, but actually means bugger all - like 95% of the posts here over the last few years, mine included - because he, like us, is trying to guess what is going to happen in the future. It cant be done. We just have to wait and see.
Eric says By this time next year SEO will be seen as a stable share, with a stable set of products, with stable contracts in stable markets.
How does he know this? He goes on to say What I am confident in is that Schroders do have sensible projections now or will have when they have completed their appraisal, reviewed the proposed contracts with the various Corporations and put the plans in place.
The point is, Schroeders bought in at a low SP. The SP doesnt need to recover much for them to make a profit. I believe it will recover, but I do not see double figures on the horizon, on the basis of what we now know. Schroeders could well sell out at 2,3 or 4p quite happily. I couldn't.
Many of us are averaging 12-16p per share, some probably higher. Whilst I can see Schroeders are sitting on a potential tidy profit, most of us have little prospect of getting out money back, and can only hope to limit our losses.
Eric says I am more likely to make money in that situation than switching my attention to a share that I do not know as well.
There is no doubt that we all know this share very well. But what do we know about it? What I know is that on numerous occasions, when the SP traded between 14-28p, we have thought there was good reason for optimism. Look at the sp now! Knowing a share also means knowing when it is a bad share. Thats what SEO is to me now. Im in because I think I can limit my losses, not because I think SEO are going to set the world on fire.
Two of the perpetrators of what I see as a massive manegerial cock-up have been shot at dawn, but I'm less than confident in those who have survived.