It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

I couldn't possibly comment -):

LOL - that's not like you Stan.:-)

There's always an exception to the rule DB -):

One or two of you've mentioned 74, 76, 78, 80, but just because England did'nt get through to the finals Scotland. N Ireland, R O Ireland did which contained players who played in the English leagues.

I did have the pleasure of seeing England win the world cup in 1966....

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Yes, they did get through GB, but then what happened? As for England's solitary win in 66' remember the home team usually was the winner in those days if they had a half decent team which they did under Alf Ramsey.

Yep but after 1966 we had some trully world class players. During 1966 they said we had 4 world class players, Banks, Wilson, Moore, and Charlton (arguably the best in the world 1966 to 1969/70)but people forget we also had Jimmy Greaves and Id say he was the 5th world class player.

That world cup win boosted English football, every team had at least 2 class players, even the botom clubs like say Wolves, remember that Ernie Hunt.....Willie Carr freekick.

In fact you could argue that we were the best football team to walk the earth.

People the World over say the 1970 Brazil team were the best ever, BUT remember this they just beat us 1-0 and if you watch the game again and I have done many times, we were very and i mean very unlucky to lose that match having had 5 clear attempts on goal to Brazils 3.

The late Geoff Astle WBA missed an absolute sitter.

!970s and early 1980s football here in this country was top class skilfull and good to watch.

Later hooligans messed it up for this country.

grannyboy - "I did have the pleasure of seeing England win the world cup in 1966...."


I'm sure a few of us can say that - but I doubt my children or even my grandchildren will ever have such memories..

I think this discussion only illustrates the inherent problem that we have in this Country at Club and International level and that is that Individual ability is "secondary" to the way "we" play the game as a "team".

You may recall the term "Total Football"... Thats what successful teams play in Europe (and have done for some time), but we don't... and thats the problem.

Watch German club Football and you will see what I mean, 5.30 this Saturday Borussia Dortmund v Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. BT Sport 1 / BT Sport 1 HD. for instance.

skinny - at least if it ever happens again our children will be able to watch it in colour :O)

Stan.......'Total Football' if I remember rightly that started with ajax and Holland. Gary lineker went over to find what their secret was and did a coaching video.

Later that year? in the Euros we played Holland and stuffed them 4-2 in the Euros quarter final.

Terry Venables was the manager.

Total football didnt win then, and I doubt it will do now against teams that fight for each other.

Remember Denmark off the beach and Greece when they won the Euros.

G/F, Yes Ajax in the 70's, That Holland game was mealy a one off as player power was over the top in those days with the Dutch National side.

That Denmark win was just brilliant, as you say they were a very late inclusion in the competition, I would argue that Denmark's style and whole Culture was again more akin to Total Football that I'm banging on about.

... By the way, you also fight when playing Total Football.

Stan, makes me puke though when I think deeply about the English National team and the players and how much they earn.

Is Rooney really worth £200 grand a game, is Gerrard worth £175 grand a game. Is Lampard worth £145 grand a game?????????????.

Then look at the German team the captain Mertasaker the goal scorer highest paid on £90 grand a week, the others a lot less.

We have to be mugs to be watching these over inflated 'so called stars'.

G/F and All, Off out now to "Practice what I Preach" -): See you later.

What is annoying is glory hunting Man U fans whingeing!

Chris, hey just because our lot get paid well over the top doesnt mean that I agree with it, far from it.

By the way Barclay is going to UTD in january my snitch on the inside tells me.

Dead cert.


Left back Baines isnt.

Youl be whingeing then LOL.

GF - So I take it you are going to keep your box at Old Trafford then if that happens mate? Surprised you lot can remember pre-premiership. Rooney 'Once a blue always a blue' Jack Rodwell the last EFC alleged English wonder kid rotting in the reserves at Man City. All about money and if United offer enough money no doubt Barkley will go the same way. I live in hope it doesn't happen. :O)

Chris.......7 of us own the box. Think we have to pay again in 2015, 5 year contracts.

Ronaldo will be back with us by then so yep will renew.

Shame for Rodwell he was a bright newcomer at one time and Fergie certainly liked him.

LOL GF, typical arrogance! What makes you think Ronaldo would want to go back to Old Trafford. Where exactly in England was he born again? No point whingeing about the state of Englands national team when the Premiership attracts the best players in the World. Sadly the majority of fans of teams in the Premiership couldn't give a dam about the National Team.

Yep the reason being they have been crap for years, now if they had been good, that wouldnt be the case.

DID YOU KNOW,

Ronaldo when born was named after Ronald Reagan. And born on the island of Madeira.

Straight up.