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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


potatohead - 04 Dec 2006 13:41 - 22800 of 27111

.0075p not to long to go now..

garyble - 04 Dec 2006 14:46 - 22801 of 27111

That maybe so D@$khead but I really cannot stomach that sort of puerile nonsense.........SQUELCHED!

nyleve - 04 Dec 2006 14:49 - 22802 of 27111

I second that - what a pratt.

tweenie - 04 Dec 2006 14:52 - 22803 of 27111

lots of xmas cheer going round...................
I myrelf am looking forward to nailing an SEO exec by thier curlies from any available fireplace.
:-))))

garyble - 04 Dec 2006 15:05 - 22804 of 27111

I fear I'm falling into the same old trap of holding on the slide for far too long. I'd consider averaging down by selling a percentage now and re-buying at a lower price. All depends on whether we get any news pre-Christmas.

With the year-end now being 31st December I don't invisage any update until the New Year, so except for a signed deal cropping up, we're going to slide even further.

Just need another day or so to really convince myself. Plus can't sell today as Tuesday tends to be news day.

AdieH - 04 Dec 2006 15:40 - 22805 of 27111

Im sorry to say this company constantly lets it's investors down, it has huge potential but until the board is replaced then this is going to .8p... I would consider investing then but would not touch until that point...

maestro - 04 Dec 2006 17:06 - 22806 of 27111

share consolidation imminent i reckon..don't buy until then

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2006 17:26 - 22807 of 27111

SD

Legitimate argument. Buying or selling on a day should be based on the evaluation of the company on the day of buying and selling. The evaluation should be based on the known fundamentals and the guessed potential.


It is irrelevant the price of what you bought at, or previously sold at.

Averaging down because you simply bought at a higher price is a fools game .

Averaging up when a share price has moved up can be sensible, especially if on margin and using the increase position to finance the action. The appraisal of the share has to be still proving positive with valuation in access of the present or previous figures. But then probably you are balancing the gain against and loss risks.

The wish to prove ones self right by not accepting that your judgement at the time of purchasing a share was wrong and buying in order to bolster ones confidence without cold re-evaluation is one of the quickest ways of pouring good money after bad.

Very few of us have not done the latter and it is difficult not to.

I am more successful investing for my daughter than myself because I am more disciplined and follow the rules.

Perhaps, I am frightened of my daughter and reduce my risk taking.

I hold SEO and think it unlikely that we will see a dramatic price change for some months. (It should be up.)

blackdown - 04 Dec 2006 17:28 - 22808 of 27111

Good idea. After consolidation, the overall value of the company will probably fall.

EWRobson - 04 Dec 2006 18:14 - 22809 of 27111

oblo Big difference between Fidelity and Schroder. Fidelity are an investment house and I would not expect them to get involved with the companies they invest in. Schroders are what used to be called a Merchant Bank who do take an active involvement in companies, financing recovery, MBOs etc. I will repeat my deduction and would appreciate a debate on the topic: Schroders will have spent some time on the case during due diligence and will have brought in other players other than themselves; they are therefore likely to have been consulted in the first place on financing strategy by Warner (also prob. Wagner); they are likely to have been the driving force in eliminating the departed directors; the current game plan will at least be approved by them and possibly driven by them. That gives me a great deal of confidence that I could not have in current management. It also means that the game from now on will be more cautious but probably much more attractive to prospective clients.

It would also seem likely that we will have a share consolidation in the not too distant future. This would not necessarily mean a move in cap. value up or down but should give more stability to share trading in that movements are likely to be less sharp and the spread lower (relatively).

Eric

explosive - 04 Dec 2006 18:36 - 22810 of 27111

All this suming up an still no news of sales.....

oblomov - 04 Dec 2006 18:51 - 22811 of 27111

Thanks for that, Eric, I take your point on the difference between Schroder and Fidelity.

You're obviously very upbeat about SEO at present - I've lowered my expectations enourmously in order to avoid further disappointment and until (or I should say if) there is some serious 'earned' cash in the coffers I expect to remain more than a little pessimistic and cynical, I'm afraid.

stockdog - 04 Dec 2006 18:52 - 22812 of 27111

Afer all the chat - show us the money!

I wish Martin Wagner (have I got the right one?) well as CEO, but from where he came I'd have him more as a COO. For a CEO what we need is a strategic thinker to prioritise commercialisation of the different IP strands and who can also sell the IP into a cash-yielding commercial market - preferably someone who's done it before, used to keeping a bunch of institutional shareholders happy (OK and the occasional PI too!). I am sure MW will be fine at producing the products that the CEO has determined to produce and has sold.

Eric, I may believe that Schroders poay close attention to the company's actions, but would not see them as driving strategy beyond bringing about who the chief strategist is. Perhaps MW has truly impressed them. If, as seems likely, he was instrumental in removing IB and HW from the board, then at least he has shown a little steel in his approach. But can he sell the products.

Sharesure - 04 Dec 2006 18:56 - 22813 of 27111

My experience of share consolidations is that the sp usually drops further in the immediate aftermath. But SEO's mgt. might just do it anyway as I have little confidence in them doing what is best for us. Don't like being so negative in a company that I hold shares in but their sloth and incompetence to date is pretty concistent.

bhunt1910 - 05 Dec 2006 07:07 - 22814 of 27111

From Carclo results:

"We continue to invest in new process technologies which help us to add value to
our customers' products. Two developments, which we have reported on in the
past, are planned to enter production in the coming six months. The soluble
capsule application, developed jointly with Stanelco plc, is being commercially
developed with Agrimin Limited to deliver drugs in veterinary applications. We
are discussing other innovative applications of this technology with a range of
customers. Our ink jet optical hard coating technology will also enter
production in a high volume automotive application. These successful
developments add to our confidence in the future growth prospects of the group

oblomov - 05 Dec 2006 08:51 - 22815 of 27111

Thanks for that Baz.

'planned to enter production in the coming six months'.

6 months X SEO = 6 years, 93 RNS's, 4 cashcalls and a lot of bloody headaches!

The news is always 'tomorrow, shortly, in the next year, etc. I'm turning into iii, help!

P.S. Is it today SEO get the push from the FTSE?


aldwickk - 05 Dec 2006 09:14 - 22816 of 27111

At what date is SEO going to be booted out of the FTSE, is it the 12th Dec

garyble - 05 Dec 2006 09:25 - 22817 of 27111

Tomorrow is also the deadline of the "standstill deed" between Ingel and Cardinal which allows cardinal to pull out without penalty.

aldwickk - 05 Dec 2006 09:34 - 22818 of 27111

Evil Knievel said if you see a company that you don't understand, then short it, as there are going to be a lot of small investers jumping into it without any understanding of how it is going to make profits.

Sounds a bit like SEO shareholders.

aldwickk - 05 Dec 2006 09:48 - 22819 of 27111

Fred1new,

I told you a while back that you should have more resouce stocks in your portfolio, they are no more risky then small hi tec stocks.

KMR could be another GFM, then theres CEY who are sitting on a world class gold find. Sorry bit off topic.
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