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2005 General Election. Place your bets....It's nearly here. (VOTE)     

MaxK - 11 Mar 2005 22:01

The 2005 general election is nearly upon us. Which way will you vote, and you reasons why. Here is a brief list of the potential contestants, please add your own.


New%20Blair%205.jpg More tax!
px_howardhome.gifLess tax!
front_h_s.jpgDont know!
_40471471_binladen1_203.jpgDeath to all infidels!
indexsutch.JPGWho gives a shit?

180px-62imfcpcl.jpg The great pretender.






Fred1new - 27 Apr 2005 11:34 - 229 of 337

What does does it feel like voting for Labour. A party which it led by what some of those voters and the probably the majority of the country "believes" (one of Tony's favourite word) to be a perpetual liar. How many of those voters are voting to cripple the next generation with debts if that generation attempt to go for university education. (While a large number of the MPs benefitted from the grant system to higher education and then achieved professional status. Their kids will not have the incomes of Cherry and B Liar to bail them out.) What a rotten country is emerging at the effect of this misled "New Labour".

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2005 11:35 - 230 of 337

Vote Monster Raving Loonies.

Chiva20 - 27 Apr 2005 12:07 - 231 of 337

Not really one to get drawn into political discussions, but I couldn't resist. Labour are getting slammed for being liars etc. They have told half truths to an extent, but do you honestly believe the Tories or Lib Dems would do any better? Shocking grasp of politics if you do, and you clearly didn't live through the Tories last time in power. I think people are missing the bigger picture here. Labour have done amazing things for the economy, however I accept they aren't prone to mistakes - but isn't anyone? The polls suggest most people agree they are the right party for the job, so most people think they are the best. They will on election day.

The contentious issue of the war is in my opinion ultimately irrelavant as it would have happened regardless of UK input, something does need to be done to knock out a murdering tyrant like Saddam, it was the right thing to do, whether the reasons for arriving at that conclusion were cloudy or not. Saddam still killed people by the thousand, left the rest of his country in abject poverty, harboured other murdering terrorists like Osama. Don't forget 9/11, Kuwait etc.

I see the arguments for paying more attention to this countries problems as oppose to the worlds, but does that mean its right to forget the rest of the world? Are we to just leave it to someone else to deal with 'cos its not our business'?

In my opinion Blairs integrity remains intact, and in my view there is no real opposition to speak of. Labour for me, until I see a viable alternative.

kshammas - 27 Apr 2005 12:24 - 232 of 337

Chiva, agreed

bristlelad - 27 Apr 2005 13:40 - 233 of 337

fredInew////////get real get a life oh change your NEWSPAPER///

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2005 16:02 - 234 of 337

Bristles,KS and Chiv

Blair refused to show independency of a true leader, by kowtowing to Bush and appearing on the platform of his master.

He should have respected the United Nations, which for all its weaknesses and faults is still the best chance for world development and peace.

By rejecting the chance for the weapons of war inspectors under Blick to complete their inspection he showed a complete disregard for the United nations and the rest of sovereign countries.

With support of the United Nations I would have accepted action against IRAQ.

But it appears that the major breakers of the Iraqi sanctions were America, and Britain who supplied Saddam with military weaponry when it suited them. But were looking for excuses to invade for American control in the Middle East. Check how many based America has on other countries soil.

If the United Nations had been involved they would have had a post war plan and not have the cock up that is no the state of Iraq.

Although Brown seems to have managed the economy relatively successfully for the last seven years, this was basically by given the responsibility to the Bank of England and leaving well alone, this period was built on the backs of a future looking episode in a Major government. (I have no truck for Tories, but do recognise those actions.)

The criticism I have of the B Liar and his period in office is the short-termisn and pandering to the public whim by the socialist government which had such a mandate for change.

He has not faced up to the responsibility for changes in pension policies, the changes in organisation which the social services, Health services, and Education preferring to decentralise the responsibilities to a local area management in order not to be held accountable.

As far as I am concerned I think Blair is self-deceiving, self advancing, acting with the ability of an old ham or a political spiv.

I wonder how much the ongoing economical problems in Britain and America has or will be effected by the costs of bombing another country into submission. Usually aggressors are generally defeated, unfortunately it sometimes takes to long for this to happen.

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2005 16:25 - 235 of 337

Bristles, Educate me, which papers do you read beside the Sun and Mirror? Perhaps Private Eye.

porky - 27 Apr 2005 16:25 - 236 of 337

Done wonders for the economy on the back of the Tories.
50 quarters without a setback, but 20 of those quarters were when the Tories were in power.
Can blame the bank of England now when it all goes pearshape.
He`s not done my pension a lot of good though.
He`s not done my council tax a lot of good.
He`s not done my tax allowance a lot of good.

cavman2 - 27 Apr 2005 18:21 - 237 of 337

Labours Pension is safe because they topped the shortfall up from the Public Purse whilst they just left ours in a MESS.(Tax anyone)
When the Tories where in the Pensions had so much money they gave the Companies a Pension Holiday for a year.
I lived through the previous Labour Government, you know the one that when it fell they said Labour was finished.When they left a mountain of debt with the IMF.Inflation above 25% and interest rates for a saver to savour.
The Tories got rid of debt and the Unions grasping Power and created a fab economy but they had a bit of sleaze so Tony said and were booted out. But I would say their sleaze is nothing to what Labour have been upto, at least we did not have men dying for a Tony Blair WAR.
Well guess what we owe the IMF another Mountain of Debt, our Gold reserves have been flogged at a knockdown price.
Since Labour took power Industrial output has FALLEN and we have the biggest trade deficit ever.
So whats he improved we live in a nanny state everything is governed by red tape and everything that should be neutral has been infiltrated by Labour Men.
If you speak the truth like Dr Kelly you will be FINGERED and your reputation and Job finished.

cavman2 - 27 Apr 2005 19:14 - 238 of 337

Blairs Plane hit by LIGHTNING, IS THIS A MESSAGE FROM THE GODS.

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2005 21:24 - 239 of 337

Pity it didn't hit him on the ground. I wouldn't have like the crew to suffer his "god's wrath" or "pleasure".

moneyplus - 28 Apr 2005 00:19 - 240 of 337

Porky --Cavman--AGREE with all you say. I'm in despair when I read people think they've got a strong economy-it's all built on billions of debt and robbery by stealth pensions etc. like a house of cards its beginning to fall apart--whoever wins they've got a hell of a mess to sort out!

cavman2 - 28 Apr 2005 00:35 - 241 of 337

Tories did it before and I hope they can do it again, I have to say i'm amazed that any person who has any financial capability can think that Labour has done any good.
Last time we were even deeper in debt to the IMF to the extent they controlled our economy.

MaxK - 28 Apr 2005 08:37 - 242 of 337

Good news for the tories.


Safe seat ensures return of Rifkind

Ex-minister to end 7-year absence

James Meek
Thursday April 28, 2005
The Guardian http://politics.guardian.co.uk/election/story/0,15803,1471788,00.html

Fred1new - 28 Apr 2005 09:00 - 243 of 337

Bring back Maggie !!!




bristlelad - 28 Apr 2005 13:07 - 244 of 337

FREDInew day today tmes/telegragh also weekends F.T. OK/YOU HAVE LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG///MAGGIE WHO CAUSE ? THE PENSION/EDUCATION/TRANSPORT/HOUSING PRODLEMS////????WHO ///

MaxK - 28 Apr 2005 13:15 - 245 of 337

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Fred1new - 28 Apr 2005 15:01 - 246 of 337

I never called Maggie a cat. I have used some others words though!

Interesting thought though. If you put B Liar, Howard and Maggie in a bag, who do you think would get out first?

Fred1new - 28 Apr 2005 15:03 - 247 of 337

Markx Then stop concentrating on the Sports Supplements. There are other pages.

standber - 29 Apr 2005 08:23 - 248 of 337

cavman and moneyplus (239 & 240)

And there's me thinking I was alone in seeing the shit we really are in!

When the scales fall from the eyes of the feckless, it will be pitiful to see.

My only wish was for David Davies to be in the driving seat. Can't have everything I suppose.
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