It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

LOL GF, typical arrogance! What makes you think Ronaldo would want to go back to Old Trafford. Where exactly in England was he born again? No point whingeing about the state of Englands national team when the Premiership attracts the best players in the World. Sadly the majority of fans of teams in the Premiership couldn't give a dam about the National Team.

Yep the reason being they have been crap for years, now if they had been good, that wouldnt be the case.

DID YOU KNOW,

Ronaldo when born was named after Ronald Reagan. And born on the island of Madeira.

Straight up.

Italia 1990 England team came very close. Along came the Premiership, England team shite for 23 years coincidence?

grannyboy - 20 Nov 2013 18:40 - 2279 of 2294
One or two of you've mentioned 74, 76, 78, 80, but just because England did'nt get through to the finals Scotland. N Ireland, R O Ireland did which contained players who played in the English leagues.

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N Ireland, R O Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are foreign re England.

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Chris Carson,

On club v country; football and rugby league I prefer club, for rugby union and cricket it's internationals. Preferring club football doesn't stop me enjoying the World Cup and wanting England to do well - looking forward to seeing Japan.

1992 and '94 bad, '96 good; not the Premier League's doing. As I mentioned, I don't blame the Premier League for having less than 30, yes only 30, capable English players.

Cheers,
KidA

KidA 30 capable players jeez thats ridiculous. SO LOW!!!!!!

Mind its how you define capable aswel.

In my book itd be ................................2.

And that might be a 100% over statement.

On the point of obscene amounts of money being picked up by players, agents, coaches, managers and of course some Directors in just the top tear of English football, this started when large amounts of Murdoch money was allowed to be ring fenced by something called The Premier League Ltd. set up purely for keeping money for the so called top teams in the country.

...Only people not to benefit financially from this windfall are the actual fans of the teams up and down the country... in fact the entrance ticket charges are also obscene in my view.

Add to that the fact that we have a lots of dubious obscenely rich foreign individuals as owners, and the game that we knew (which was by no means perfect) has changed for the worst.

KidA N Ireland, R O Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are foreign re England.


Not sure what you mean with that coment?...Seeing what i said was that most of the players that played in those national teams played in the English leagues, do you have difficulty understanding that?

As to supporting ANY team...No i don't bother, not even my local team who i used to go all over the country watching, I don't like how the systems run and how much money is involved....

Which teams that then GB?

One change I'd like to see, keepers not allowed out of the penalty area.

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grannyboy - 21 Nov 2013 15:01 - 2300 of 2302
KidA N Ireland, R O Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are foreign re England.


Not sure what you mean with that coment?...Seeing what i said was that most of the players that played in those national teams played in the English leagues, do you have difficulty understanding that?

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No difficulty understanding that foreign players playing in the English leagues made tournament finals English players playing in the English leagues didn't make. My post just mentions that they are foreign. The number of players playing for both one of those national teams and a club registered to play in the English leagues is about the same now as it was then.

grannyboy - 20 Nov 2013 09:56 - 2266 of 2302

Stan the simple fact is there is to many foreign players in the English leagues and not enough English(Scotish,Welsh etc) being brought on that are world class players, the exception being Townsend who at least shows some skill and enthusiasm....




Spot on !

KidA - 20 Nov 2013 11:45 - 2271 of 2303

Too many foreign players??? England '74, '76, '78, '80?




Missing your point here ????

England were just shite at the time end of. Top 2 teams Leeds and Liverpool were stuffed with foreigners (Scots) and they qualified in '74 and '78 and in '76 bloody Wales (yep and I was there) qualified for the Euro quarter finals !

grannyboy - 20 Nov 2013 18:40 - 2279 of 2304

One or two of you've mentioned 74, 76, 78, 80, but just because England did'nt get through to the finals Scotland. N Ireland, R O Ireland did which contained players who played in the English leagues.

I did have the pleasure of seeing England win the world cup in 1966....




I have the pleasure of not being old enuff ... thank gawd for small mercies :-)

skinny Send an email to skinny View skinny's profile - 21 Nov 2013 06:55 - 2283 of 2305

grannyboy - "I did have the pleasure of seeing England win the world cup in 1966...."


I'm sure a few of us can say that - but I doubt my children or even my grandchildren will ever have such memories..





gutted for you ... truly :-)

Chris Carson Send an email to Chris Carson View Chris Carson's profile - 21 Nov 2013 11:44 - 2296 of 2306

Italia 1990 England team came very close. Along came the Premiership, England team shite for 23 years coincidence?



Imo ... nope , they should have won it that year though they did push their luck before they met Germany.

Go look at the Spanish set up , top of my head 80% of all squads have to qualify to play for Spain.

I blame Sky for the amount of crap foreigners we have playing in the UK keeping our youngsters from developing.

Anyway sod England ... lay Man U at Betfair to win Sunday.

Once again (how many more times?) England could play 11 Ronaldo's out there but if the "way they play" is flawed then we will continue to underperform... And that's the key I'm afraid.

How on earth are Sky at fault ?

More money in the PL ? - Yes

but how does that extend into buying an overseas player instead of an English one ?

Perhaps the reality is that the value for money is overseas, something virtually every club has recognised so Mr Brit either has to sell his services at a cheaper price or suck it

This is how Brazilian Women celebrate a soccer goal....




I've just booked my ticket!

Dil [Send an email to Dil] [View Dil's profile] - 22 Nov 2013 00:31 - 2304 of 2311
KidA - 20 Nov 2013 11:45 - 2271 of 2303

Too many foreign players??? England '74, '76, '78, '80?

Missing your point here ????

England were just shite at the time end of. Top 2 teams Leeds and Liverpool were stuffed with foreigners (Scots) and they qualified in '74 and '78 and in '76 bloody Wales (yep and I was there) qualified for the Euro quarter finals !

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Liverpool teams of that period had more English players than foreign. The point of the post; England were bad before the 'invasion' - it isn't to blame for the state of the national team. The number of players required is small and it isn't the foreigners fault England struggle to do the basics of retaining the ball, and moving and pressing in an organised way.

Cheers,
KidA