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Traders Thread - Tuesday 11th November (EMA)     

Crocodile - 10 Nov 2003 22:19

Premarket Futures FTSE -15 DAX -20 DOW -35 S&P -3.6 Nasdaq -5

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Despite positive news in the tech sector U.S. stock markets sank lower on profit taking with the Nasdaq down 29.10, Dow Jones, down 53.26 and the S&P 500 down 6.10.

Canary Wharf, No guaranteed bid.

Kingfisher said its sales growth slowed in the third quarter, as it had anticipated due to very hot summer weather but tight control of stocks and costs reduced the impact on profits. Third quarter sales grew 3.6 percent compared with 5.5 percent growth in the first half.

Emap publishing and radio said it should meet full-year goals even though it expected no material change in trading conditions during its second half. They posted a nine percent rise in profit to 94 million pounds in the six months to end-September, on turnover up seven percent to 509 million pounds.

International Power reported nine months earnings at the bottom of analysts' forecasts and warned that tough conditions in the U.S would send profits down further in 2004. Earnings per share for the nine months fell to 7.2 pence from 12.8 a year ago. Analysts had forecast 7.8 pence and the company said things were so bad in the U.S that it may have to mothball some capacity.

BAA airports operator reported a four percent rise in October passenger traffic from a year ago, its strongest performance since the Iraq war this year. The lucrative north Atlantic sector recording its first monthly gain since February.

Xansa computer services said it expected turnover to be down in the second half although in line with its expectations amid challenging market conditions.

Northern Foods reported a 16 percent fall in half-year profits. After three profit warnings in the last two years the group said it aims to stabilise second-half profits at last year's level. The company, which makes own-label ready meals for Marks & Spencer reported 6 month profits of 32.5 million pounds at the top of analysts forecast range of 29.5-32.5 million pounds.

Reckitt Benckiser report later

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little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:13 - 23 of 45

I see Jules99 is back. It's been a while since she's posted. Used to post on this thread quite bit a few months ago.

She's just started a thread on MKS (Surprised if there aren't others!). I must admit, increasingly I'm not bothering to read any of the new threads. I like a bit of history with them - more interesting to see how things change over a period of months rather than the last few days. (Also to see if they have managed to ramp the price up or not!)

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:24 - 24 of 45

Less than 20 threads posted on in the Traders room so far today - and in the Investors room near 50 thread! It's a pity the Investors room has to have quantity over quality!

Am I being too harsh!

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:26 - 25 of 45

Whoops, missed when DXNS turned! Now too expensive to go back in. Oh well the next time it hits 1.345!

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:35 - 26 of 45

Melnibone, I presume you expecting MKS to drop first thing in the morning after going ex div? What are the chances it'll buck the trend?

Legins - 11 Nov 2003 14:40 - 27 of 45

little woman,

There are probably far more investors than there are traders and those investors who just register but do not subscribe to am don't get access to the traders room. Maybe an explanation.

Melnibone - 11 Nov 2003 14:49 - 28 of 45

Yes I am expecting MKS to drop tomorrow.

Due no bonds trading today I would expect the US
stock volume to be down. This will lead to whippy
technical trading.
Nobody will want to be caught on the wrong side of any move.
I would therefore expect no direction to be given for the
FTSE to trade tomorrow by the US market.

Doesn't mean that I'm right, but you need to have an opinion
to formulate a view and enter or exit positions in accordance
with that view.
Otherwise you just end up watching stuff and doing nothing.

Melnibone

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:50 - 29 of 45

Actually, I would have said there are more traders posting and they post more often than investors.

The difference is that the traders post mostly on general threads. For example this thread on the traders room has between 250 and 400 post a day. This one has now getting about 30 posts, instead of the 5-10 it used to.

As I said, quality rather than quantity when it comes to threads in the Traders room. Also I suspect a reason why many traders never venture over to the investors room.

Druid2 - 11 Nov 2003 14:52 - 30 of 45

Nice to see the number of posts here increasing. Very interesting and varied posts. Keep it up everybody. We all have the same aim and that is to make money on the stockmarket.

ThePlayboy - 11 Nov 2003 14:55 - 31 of 45

druid-not posted you dow 10k guesstimate on the thread yet, 3 places left, oh go on:)

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 14:56 - 32 of 45

DXNS just lost its support and droping again. Supposed to be elsewhere but this time I may try and get some if I can work out were bottom is!

Melnibone - 11 Nov 2003 15:08 - 33 of 45

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MKS is a bit of an oddball as far as the ftse goes.
As you can see above, the only times it's tracked it
during the last 5 years, is for about 10 months during
02/03.
It's now diverging again.
What attracted me this week is I expected the selling
pressure to come off as it approached ex-divi and was
down near support levels, this would
maybe lead to small bounces from any weakness.

If it drops again tomorrow, depending what the FTSE is doing,
I may buy again as selling pressure remains low towards the
register day for paying the dividends.

May not work, but you need a plan and a reason for opening
positions.

Melnibone

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 15:10 - 34 of 45

AVZ is finally getting interesting

Melnibone - 11 Nov 2003 15:31 - 35 of 45

There are some nice moves in AVZ if you can get the timing right.

What's keeping me away is that I think that the bounces are caused
by Bears taking profit, not by folk buying on weakness.

If it closes below 400p then the Bears will target a lower price
at which to take profits. If you are long and mistime it there
is a strong risk that you will either get locked in or stopped out
of a losing position.

Until this Spitzer thing gets cleared up there is negative sentiment
on the stock.
If Croc's prediction of a big drop comes true then AVZ will drop
more than the FTSE because it is a geared play on the market direction
because of the nature of its business.

Not trying to put you off, just airing my view. :-)

Melnibone

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 15:40 - 36 of 45

I must admit I was working on monday (yesterday morning) being the day it dropped as far it was going to in the short term. But having said that I can see the support & resistance levels on Level 2, which is what I'm using. I just hoped it would break 416 today so I could make a reasonable profit - which it doesn't look it's going to. Not to worry - still a profit is a profit.

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 16:10 - 37 of 45

A lot of trading going on at the moment. Even the S&P after the initial expected drop looks like it is above opening levels.

After spending the day down, will we close on a high for the day?

Juzzle - 11 Nov 2003 16:12 - 38 of 45

Added to my TGM holding. Climbing strongly again.

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 16:22 - 39 of 45

TGM, not come accross that one before, but for a low traded company the share price sure went up. Worth taking a more detailed look.

Melnibone - 11 Nov 2003 16:24 - 40 of 45

Probably end flat.

See my remarks earlier ref no bond trading, therefore
just technical daytrades due lighter volume and few
new positions being taken.

But what do I know.

Melnibone

Melnibone - 11 Nov 2003 16:28 - 41 of 45

Good job I never bought my MKS back for another afternoon
bounce. I'd be locked into them now with the stock opening
up ex-divi tomorrow.

That's me done for the day.

Melnibone

little woman - 11 Nov 2003 16:34 - 42 of 45

Me too

Off now......
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