Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Getting very emotional on here glad Ive been out fishing.

greekman in answer to your qustion re- Nigel Farage, the attack on that Belgian Euro politician was very nasty and ignorant and uncalled for. Id say if he can do that once he can do it again. Do we really want somebody like that leading the country?.

But its fine by me if torries limp over to UKIP and allow labour to take an overall majority no problems.

As for Maggie Im so sorry to hear about her death, todays not the time for discussing the policys she failed on from the heart of the Midlands to the tip of Scotland. Thats for another day and today and in the near future we should be giving respect to her family and friends.

greek - if you trade, it's probably best to get your accountant to do it all for you, as there are also rules applying if you trade in/out of a stock with a 30 day period ...... if you use IG, the a/c dept will supply you with a full annual analysis suitable for submission to your own accountant

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btw, it will certainly be mandatory for you to complete a tax return

Hi Goldfinger,

I think we will have to agree to differ on Nigel Farage, as I see his 'attacks' as saying what many ordinary people think.

As to Maggie, I agree with your statement.

Totally agree gf. Sorry I cannot help you greekman as I have never made enough to worry about CGT.

Disgracefull..... just look at this posted on twitter and not caught by the BBC who posted it up on their web site.....

https://twitter.com/GerryGreek/status/321249961322872832/photo/1

bloody disgrace.

Absolutely disgusting - no respect for anybody, just purely Tap Room Wallers. The lowest of the low.

Miners' union takes legal action to evict Arthur Scargill from his £1.5m luxury apartment which costs them £34,000 per year

He was never known for compromise and neither were the men he led into one of the most epic industrial battles.

So when Arthur Scargill and the National Union of Mineworkers found themselves at loggerheads the struggle was always going to be drawn out and messy.
Embarrassingly for a radical socialist who long railed against the perks and privileges of the elite, the new confrontation is over a £1.5million luxury flat in the City of London.
The retired union chief, who was defeated by Margaret Thatcher in the miners’ strike of 1984 and 1985, claims his members have to fund his pied a terre until he dies.

Arthur Scargill loses court battle to have costs of his London flat paid for rest of his LIFE by mining union

The former miners’ leader Arthur Scargill has lost his fight to have the National Union of Mineworkers pay the rent on his London flat for the rest of his life.
Mr Scargill, 74, had argued that he signed a contract which entitled him to a property throughout his retirement.

But the union disputed the claim and took the decision all the way to the High Court.

A bit like MPs thinking the tax payer should pay for flats in London.

Where the land lady is the land lady.

How much did a chap called Jenkins the jink have to repay?

PS.

He thought it part of a contract!

Although never having worked down a pit, as I was born and lived in Nottingham till age 30 I can only go by what my many mining friends used to tell me, usually after a few pints had loosened them up a bit.

After the 1984/85 strikes I had many conversations with miners, many who had gone into mining straight from school, some still with jobs, most without and most had the same opinion that the Miners Union had bought a lot of the pit closures on themselves.
They did not want to modernise which was unavoidable but also understandable, as this would obviously mean job losses

The union was almost a 'vote for militancy or you were ostrasised' club.

There were many stories of an 8 hour day with only 3 or less spent on the coal face for face workers.
Time spent preparing, travelling and clean time after returning to the surface was often stretched out.
Foreign miners (and I don't mean the Chinese or other none risk averse counties) were producing far more coal per man than those in the UK making UK coal unprofitable.
This was proven post strike when some mines continued and produced far more tonnage per man and a higher wage than pre strike era.
There was little difference in the miners unions than the car industry unions where it was down tools till an electrician could fit a new light bulb.

Don't get me wrong, I had a lot of sympathy and admiration for the 'miner' and saw many families suffer as father disagreed with son and brother with brother.

As for Scargill, a commie from head to toe who only cared for himself!

Arthur Scargill: The very image of a man whose time has passed

Someone was telling me the other day, say what you like about that Bob Crow, but I’ll bet his members really love him.
Well, they probably do. Certainly most of the people who work in London and pay their wages have views on Bob Crow.

Those opinions have only become stronger since the Tube and railway workers so successfully used the Olympics to jemmy even more money out of the rest of us.

As Boris Johnson has discovered.
But even in the world of the trade unions, where 10 years can be a short time, things can go around. The all-conquering union boss beloved of his grateful members in one decade can become a pathetic shadow in another.

Cue the clanking, chained, ghostly figure of Arthur Scargill, shuffling into a county courtroom in Sheffield to try to get the National Union of Mineworkers to pay for his phone bills and a car.

Only £12.99

It isn't worth that much.

You could only pay for it in Camerons.

Her legacy the Financial Services and "Loads of Money" and a demoralised country of raped communities.

The Financial Services the main driver in the economic collapse of the country were liberalised .

a question or two for the pack of huff-and-puff resident socialists on this site .....

1) Can you deny that when MT became PM in 1979 that the country was not on its knees, effectively bankrupt and with inflation running at 15-20%

2) Can you tell me (us all) which of MT's labour policies the next Labour gov't reversed?

3) Can you tell what the next Labour gov't did to re-empower the unions?

DYOH.

cynic

You don't have to be Labour or Tory to hate Thatcher, you just have to be a member of a family of a sacked miner or put out of work factory worker or one of the millions put out of work by her policies, or the partner of someone who committed suicide, the suicide rate was sky high when she was in power not to mention the pensioners that suffered under her rein.

You can also ask the families of the three hundred sailors of the Belgrano that perished while sailing away from the Falkland Island and well out of the restricted zone, not to mention our armed forces that were killed or mutilated in a pointless war for an Island that no one wants. Give the Islanders £1m each and then see if they want to stay there.

What was the point of selling of all the council houses? Apart from the Tories trying to get more votes, the legacy of this policy is now costing us the tax payer millions families rent privately we foot the bill and the Tory landlords get rich.

What was the point of selling of all our nationalised industries? Apart from the Tories trying to get more votes, The French now own our Water, who owns our Gas and Electricity that keeps going up your guess is as good as mine.

I do not know what the future holds but no political party present or future seem to have a clue, if they do not take on real radical policies then this country is heading for the pan big time.

You don't have to be Labour or Tory to hate Thatcher .... that has virtually no bearing at all on the questions i asked .... as you were told at school, "Answer the question!"

Actually, we can see what was achieved by the war over the Falkland Islands and it is viewed as a positive by the inhabitants. What has been achieved by the war in Iraq, how many lives lost and £ billions by comparison. If it wasn't for Thatcher we would have the communist trade unions running this country by now, a bunch of Arthur Scargills who pretend to be standing up for the under- priviledged, but in reality who want to be living in country mansions and driving about in flash cars.

Driver........filter cynic I did yesterday ( a 6 week suspension) hes not genuine in his debating just wants to cause arguments and disruption and doesnt even believe in whats hes posting. Basicaly hes just out to take the -iss.

If more and more filter him hel get fed up and enter a debate without returing to his public schoolboy rheotoric where he trys to take delight in getting one over on you through his use of the English language.

Bin him.

sticky has only squelched me because i had the gall to challenge him on his assertions as to my lack of integrity .... sorry sticky, but even if you can't read this, you clearly lack backbone and balls

and no, i'm not out to take the piss or (necessarily) just to be contentious .... however, i seem to manage to raise questions that certain people find it difficult to answer