Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Like I said Goldfinger, the term 'twat' wasn't intended as an insult, just a view of how your sycophantic support of Scargil is coming across. On reflection I should have used the term 'twattish' but it's not in the dick and harry.

I have copied and reported your post 23050 to my cat as I don't think its very fair, I'm miles ahead in this debate. The cat just hissed, does't seem to rate your comments either.

The cost was worth it as the destructive power of the unions was broken. The closed shops, restrictive practices, secondary picketing, forced union subs, strikes without ballots were all stopped.

How many of Thatcher's laws were repealed by Blair/Brown? - NONE!

My cat didn't like them either. He just threw up!

Please fill in the Maggie survey.........

http://sampb.co.uk/politics/poll-was-thatcher-good-or-bad-for-britain/

Goldfinger is sounding more more like Fred , and we all know what a joke he is.

He said we should email him to resolve any conflict , then he goes running to his pal's at moneyam when i started a Fred free talk to your self thread. and now he his reporting chuckles for abuse when clearly it wasn't anymore that is posted on this thread every day, why does he not report Tanker ?

aldwick........ read the thread header.

And yes I saw your earlier dig.

This past summer you were in effect stealing copyright/B Board generaly accepted proceedure. And what on earth makes you think Fred wouldnt have posted on your new thread?????.

I have not recieved an e-mail from you or anyone else for that matter.

Am I supposed to be telepathic!!!!!

And by the way tanker is not guilty of reposting squelched posts (as per chuckles) and nobody has reported any problems to me about him.

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Stealing copyright!!!!!!

This gets more bizzare by the minute.

Posts on most forums become the copyrighted property of those forums according to the terms of usage.

There is little chance of a copyright case for the above as judges would tend to take the approach of "what harm was there".

We did have a penalty system very much the same as in football on this board in the early days. ie, 2 yellows and then a red and you were off. I think Ian handed them out.

In fact I received a yellow myself back in 2003.

I dont know that its ended??.

Since the market perked up at xmas we have had it appears more activity and on some threads more un-gentleman like behaviour.

Perhaphs thats what you would like to see the penalty system again?, why not approach management and ask for it?.

penalty system , copy right ? lol

I thought it was Simon Cawkwell [ E K ] who exposed Robert Maxwells accounting not you

I keep seeing posts about lying deceiving Tories, then some about lying deceiving Labour.
Funny how there are no posts re lying deceiving Lib Dems, obviously because they have not been in power in our life times, that is until now with the coalition.
These generalisation posts are rather pointless as if you can show me a politician who does not lie and deceive and I will show you a politician that has never and will never get into power.
The only difference is some lie and deceive more than others!

Politics lies and deceit go hand in hand!

"Politics lies and deceit go hand in hand!" in general yes.. but some more then others.

This bloke came across as an exception though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bell

neatly put greek, though arguably a little cynically phrased!
don't forget lloyd george!

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I see the ALD of Jefferies’s fame has risen again.

When I was a school boy and student I worked at a colliery during “holiday” periods and union “dues” were deducted from my weekly pay packet.

This was a voluntary deduction and I objected to my father (who was management) and told him I didn’t want to pay the dues or be a temporary member of the NUM.

His reply, was it was up to me, but suggested that I looked around first and thought about what the unions had achieved and provided for me :

1) Improvement in Health and Safety standards
(Over 439 men had kill by fire and explosions at one pit at Senghenydd Colliery.
More than 500 men and boys died in 1901 and 1913 at the Universal Colliery in Senghenydd.)

As a young “man” he had worked there after and at the time of those explosions,
He thought the Unions had be responsible to help raise those standards.

2) Raising the standards of training of “boys” and those working at pits.

3) Provisions of welfare at Pits.

Medical examinations, recognition of Chest diseases, treatment of those injured and “Rest or Recovery Homes”

Simple things like Pit head baths, decent protective work wear.

Also legal representation for pit workers in case of accidents and sacking on “false cause”.

Pointed out that I may have use of such, if I had an accident at the pit and broke my leg.

Financial support families of workers "kill" at work.

Representation of a working community.

They also providing funding for many to go to “night schools” and university and into politics.

They also enabled decent standards of pay in the mining industry.

I won’t carry on, but one can see the importance of the unions.

I did not ask for my subs. back.

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Many of the pits after the WW2 were worked out and uneconomical because geological reasons and also due to lack of mechanism and also Coal imports produced in countries with “better” geological conditions and newly mechanised pits.
Were the unions “barmy” in the 50s,60s,70s,? Yes.

But the step, which was needed, was the introduction of the “secret” ballot and the “right” not to be a member in a union to work in an “industry” and removal of the closed shop in some industries.

The whole scale castration was brought on of the unions was by the stupidity of some of the union leadership at that period and viciousness of government of that period.
Scargill, Ummh.

I thought before that the “strike” that it was wrong and thought it would fail. Also recall the apprehension of that period discussing how unstable and dangerous the prior period in the Heath government was.

Much of the above, could be written about other heavy industries where the working conditions were appalling. (I witnessed them.)

I was against the Faulkland war and saw it as immoral self glorifying political stunt by Thatcher.

Also, I was against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and foresaw the results, both of which were supported by the tory political leadership wanting to get on the bandwagons.

Apologies, the above is scrappy, but giving details is long winded.

Chuckles.

"You made your fortune from Thatcher policies, PMSL :-)"

This would suggest your ethos and that of the Thatcher period was what you could grab for yourself and not what you could do for others.

That is what the Thatcher philosophy and period will be known for.