cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
moneyplus
- 26 Jul 2008 14:54
- 2308 of 21973
cheers--have a good weekend. It's so hot in Devon I'm indoors for a cool off!
spitfire43
- 26 Jul 2008 23:14
- 2309 of 21973
Moneyplus, Why not print out the daily graph of the indices you wan't to trade at the close of play, and test your trading system each day. It sounds a bit laborious, but after a few weeks of back testing, it should help to fine tune your strategy.
I know exactly what you mean about predictions being correct, but timing being lousy. I has the same when trading companies long and short, I was rubbish at it, so now I just limit myself to the FTSE.
Cheers Spitfire..............
moneyplus
- 27 Jul 2008 14:02
- 2310 of 21973
thanks for the tip spitfire--good one.
2517GEORGE
- 27 Jul 2008 16:24
- 2311 of 21973
That sounds like a good idea I'll try that as well,(thanks spitfire43) I'm new to SB and lost on co's, notably SBRY, having gone long on 3 occassions, guess who missed out on their rise to the 310 mark. I resorted to the FTSE and have had mixed results.
2517
moneyplus
- 27 Jul 2008 21:27
- 2312 of 21973
Has anyone taken up the learn s/b offers with amazing profits? I'm bombarded with them from rhps associates or others--but have not responded as they look too good to be true! Any opinions? I did seriously consider spending a day with Robbie aka The Naked Trader as there are good recommends on that one.
Falcothou
- 28 Jul 2008 09:03
- 2313 of 21973
http://www.financial-spread-betting.com/Spreadbetters.html
Never done any but suspect some are flogging dubious trading system software or expensive future courses, like anything there must be the good, the bad and the very ugly
pericles
- 28 Jul 2008 10:11
- 2314 of 21973
moneyplus, IGIndex has trailing stops (which I have not yet used),with a trailing stop of say 30 on the Dow, as the index moves hopefully in your direction the stop moves up in 10 point steps, so if you are in at 11500 say the stop is 470 and when you get to520 your stop is 490. Havent used it but may reactivate my old account. also notice for newbies they send instructions in 6 weekly parts i think. You being in Glorious Devon willwant to take that option rather visit london for a course perhaps
moneyplus
- 28 Jul 2008 13:16
- 2315 of 21973
Thank you pericles. It certainly has been glorious--slightly cloudier today though but still good for the holidaymakers.
spitfire43
- 28 Jul 2008 22:31
- 2316 of 21973
Looking at the way the DOW fell after FTSE close at 2.1% down, we should be in for a very negative start, will have to check far east and ASX overnight, but can't see them making much difference to FTSE. With the DOW being hit by some poor company results, we start to see some interesting results here tommorrow and the rest of the week. Interims from BB. and BP. tomorrow, then AV. LLOY and CRBY on Wednesday.
Good luck for tomorrow.............
Falcothou
- 29 Jul 2008 08:48
- 2317 of 21973
From market today looks like long oils and miners short financials is back in fashion again
pericles
- 29 Jul 2008 08:50
- 2318 of 21973
Late news last night "Merrill stuns with new cash call and write offs" sez the free ft.com 6AM Cut news email service, write down $5.7bn share issue$8.5bn, making 26bn in all to date.uk banks down from the open interesting times with results coming thro, as you say spitfire43
silvermede
- 29 Jul 2008 08:55
- 2319 of 21973
Robert Alexander:
If you are struggling suggest you get some training if you wish to make money in the long run.
Try the Online Training Academy at this link.
http://www.tradingacademy.com/london/index_london.htm
here is link to their free Education Centre: http://www.tradingacademy.com/education/index2.htm
and whoever you go to please avoid 'Win Investing'
Hope that is of some help.
spitfire43
- 29 Jul 2008 09:21
- 2320 of 21973
Not a great start today, with 16 point loss on first short trade, hopefully will have another entry point. Surprised at ftse strengh today, seems a battle between finanacials and oil companies.
spitfire43
- 29 Jul 2008 11:18
- 2321 of 21973
Thats my lot for today, will accept a 16 point loss I can't sit here all day waiting for an entrance, will try again tomorrow morning, always another day. lloy could influence proceedings tomorrow.
Now watch the ftse fall, now that I have chosen to call it a day.
cynic
- 30 Jul 2008 14:08
- 2322 of 21973
this is prob why NY looks to opening nicely higher again, and of course taking London with it .....
Federal Reserve extends deadline for firms to borrow from discount window by 4-1/2 months to Jan. 30, 2009,
robertalexander
- 30 Jul 2008 15:24
- 2323 of 21973
silvermede,
will give it a look see,
thanks
Alex
moneyplus
- 30 Jul 2008 15:50
- 2324 of 21973
My best day yet! managed to gain 23 on the dow-probably should have held on but it's too nerve wracking when you're not fully used to it especially on the winning side!
cynic
- 30 Jul 2008 16:33
- 2325 of 21973
generally i managed not to be too greedy and took profits during the afternoon ...... sold XTA too quickly but still, but that one is so damn volatile could easily dump 1.00 by tomorrow morning
cynic
- 30 Jul 2008 17:11
- 2326 of 21973
too far too fast?
maybe, for NY looks to be boiling over ...... keep watching
Falcothou
- 30 Jul 2008 19:58
- 2327 of 21973
Don't imagine Dow will be too happy about oil's move, though maybe it's a temporary technical bounce.Cynic what do you think about trading Dow/S&P with regard to VIX... options exposure to S&P. I gather when it is near or over 30 it can represent a good buying opportunity.I understand it was at 40 after 7/11?