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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 09 Apr 2013 17:57 - 23183 of 81564

Here is something would upset lefties like goldfinger.

My kids both went to a very posh prep school until 13. There were only 15 pupils in their class. The younger of my sons has just had a class reunion. They are all now 16/17 years old now. The parents of the boy who arranged the reunion paid for everything. I won't tell the venue as if I told you you would be pretty shocked. Licencing laws did not apply as it is a private residence as well as a public building and one of the boys lives there.

On arrival the 15 boys were served champagne and cavier by 5 waiters. A private tour of the premises followed and then dinner waited on by another set of waiters. There was very fine red and white wines followed by port.

A trifle excessive for a primary school reunion.

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2013 17:59 - 23184 of 81564

GF - Change your username to hypocrite, sauna and turkish bath? :O)

Haystack - 09 Apr 2013 18:05 - 23185 of 81564

An interesting sub note is that the boys have now moved on to various public schools such as City, Westminster and every one of them has a minimum of 12 A* IGCSS (quite a lot more difficult than GCSEs) and some with a few more. That level of attainment is what you pay for in private education. I guess most will go to Oxford/Cambridge.

doodlebug4 - 09 Apr 2013 18:38 - 23186 of 81564

Seemed to be a lot of champagne being popped last night by the left wingers, so it's not just the "upper class cissy boys" who have the money to spend on expensive booze. The difference between "upper class cissy boys" and left-wing yobs is that when they get pissed they don't start trashing shops, looting and throwing stones at the police.

Haystack - 09 Apr 2013 18:39 - 23187 of 81564

Yahoo have done an any online poll. The question was 'did Margaret Thatcher change Britain for better or worse'. The result was interesting. 53% voted for better and 47% for worse.

3 monkies - 09 Apr 2013 18:41 - 23188 of 81564

Or die of sclerosis of the liver before they attain the age of 25yrs. Hopefully not and good luck to them.

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2013 18:44 - 23189 of 81564

Cynic,
Posting 23156,
It is a ludicrous attempt to give the rent recipient the responsibility of dealing with money.
In some cases like giving £50 pocket money to a six year old in a sweet shop and telling then not to spend any money.
May work sometimes.
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Doodle bugs.

Do you know personally those who were demonstrating, or basing your opinion on periods of your own method of self expression?
Perhaps, they were irritated by the sycophantic expressions and eulogising of somebody saw as a tragedy in motion.

Greek,
Support cut off for 3rd and 4th child, means that the support is reduced for all the children or for the last number.
I suppose you could put them on the scrap heaps to die, as was done in ancient Rome. (That would teach them a lesson.)

Mind to keep the population at a sufficient level of replacement “needs”, one would have to asked the inbred elite to increase their breeding, or there wouldn’t be sufficient to look after in their old age.
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Your joke about the Abbot was beautiful.

Cynic,

Would you do 16 hours of work foe £56. Your are out of touch with the minimum wage.

Cynic,
One of the major problems with the decrying of the workless, is where are all the jobs,
Unemployed physically fit individuals should probably be expected to do some work in society, if they are able to, but working is not a virtue in itself and although I enjoyed what I did, there are many necessary occupations which I would have considered drudgery or punishment if i was expected to do.

Get the jobs, and certain jobs should be shared out amongst all in society, similar to being in a Kibbutz. It may bring back a respect of some to those carrying out more menial tasks than their own.
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GF,
God help us, but the G was made of copper.

Cynic,
Eat your heart out, I have just found a case of 1963 Taylors port, which I was given back in the 70s.

Must have another look around.


Could drink it after the pork to-night.

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2013 19:05 - 23190 of 81564

Here is food for thought and for Hays a pointer to the confidence in Maggie's legacy:


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cynic - 09 Apr 2013 19:08 - 23191 of 81564

hmm! actually oxbridge is not necessarily the place to go ..... in fact, my youngest was well-served by not getting into balliol, going instead to nottingham, where his degree was much better tailored to his chosen area in the real world

though sophisticated adults may appreciate Quatr' Saisons and that ilk, i feel it rather distasteful to waste it on precocious teenagers, more than anything, because they will just not appreciate it

i know that may appear slightly hypocritical and certainly sticky's politics of jealousy, verging on inverted snobbery, cut no ice with me ..... everyone gets dealt a hand at birth, and as they progress through life, it is up to them how they make best use of that

btw, i'm afraid i know of far too many who have been through really good educational establishments and fallen badly off the rails .... more importantly, private education does not necessarily bring out the best results, academic and otherwise

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2013 19:18 - 23192 of 81564

I am told that my children have better tastes than I have and my eldest daughter reminds me that when she was six she used to escort me to an Italian restaurants on a regular basis and enjoyed the food. Those were the days,




3 monkies - 09 Apr 2013 19:28 - 23193 of 81564

Ooops have I lost the plot here - why would a 6yr old be escorting her Father to a restaurant - (Italian or Not)???? Very strange, it should be the other way around!!!!! Hope you daughter is only making a joke of it, pretending she used to take you fred.....

cynic - 09 Apr 2013 19:59 - 23194 of 81564

Would you do 16 hours of work for £56. Your are out of touch with the minimum wage. .... i confess i made a couple false assumptions .....

1) that the recipient was also getting full housing benefit (£500 pm i think)
2) that the £56 was like £75-90 for you and i who pay tax and nics etc

if 2 was correct, than £56 nett surely would equate to about £90 gross = pretty much minimum wage

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i confess i don't much care if the recipient gets the job of his life ..... tough fact, but most people are pretty bored at best with their employment - though decent management can make it more palatable

the real issue is that the recipient of benefits should get back into employment pdq .... apart from anything else, he is then in a stronger position when applying for another job ..... one would hope that he also derives some personal satisfaction from going at least some way to paying his way in life - as in many or even most ways, is our obligation

Haystack - 09 Apr 2013 20:12 - 23195 of 81564

It wasn't a restaurant that they went to.

Haystack - 09 Apr 2013 20:14 - 23196 of 81564

It doesn't matter what the hourly rate is for work while on benefits. The rile could be a full week's work for whatever you get. It isn't really pay anyway.

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2013 20:18 - 23197 of 81564

Right back from the sauna, them Turkish guys really are efficient hard workers show our supposed strivers a thing or two in the work stakes.

Had a lovely meal afterwards at the Yorkshire Ritz, 5 course, succulent baby venison for the main course.....ohh so yummy....... delicious.

skinny - 09 Apr 2013 20:24 - 23198 of 81564

"Ive worked for the DHSS I know what people with nothing to lose are capable of. They are desperate and will stop at nothing believe me.

Lets face it only 20 months ago we had RIOTS on the streets and the situation boiling up now is far worse.

Can you deny that?."

The middle class 'rioters' revealed: The millionaire's daughter, the aspiring musician and the organic chef all in the dock

Poverty, social exclusion, poor education - these are just some of the theories put forward to explain the recent rioting.

Yet shockingly, among those in the dock accused of looting are a millionaire's grammar school daughter, a ballet student and an organic chef.
A law student, university graduate, a musician and an opera steward also said to have taken part.

They are just some of the youngsters from comfortable middle-class backgrounds who have been charged with criminality.
Some of them were arrested at the scene, others handed themselves in after seeing their faces in photographs and on video.

doodlebug4 - 09 Apr 2013 20:25 - 23199 of 81564

You are such a total wind-up merchant gf - I'm surprised anyone falls for your nonsense any more.

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2013 20:27 - 23200 of 81564

Expect a lot more of this............


Tuesday, 9 April 2013


Conservative member of 50 years defects to UKIP ahead of county council elections

A CONSERVATIVE member of more than 50 years has defected to UKIP and will now stand against his former party in May’s county council elections.




Harry Carr, 72, a former Tory district councillor, made up his mind to leave the party before Christmas and will now contest the newly created Stroud Central ward for Nigel Farage’s anti-EU party next month.




Mr Carr, who joined the Conservatives as a 16-year-old after leaving school, said he was ‘totally dissatisfied’ with the party’s policies and its leader David Cameron, who he said ‘changes his mind every two months’.




At a national level, Mr Carr said he was unhappy with his party’s stance on Europe and uncomfortable with welfare reforms which were ‘taking money off disabled people’.




He also criticised Gloucestershire County Council’s Conservative administration for signing a contract with Urbaser Balfour Beatty for the Javelin Park incinerator before planning permission had been awarded.




"All those years I was a Conservative but I’ve just become totally dissatisfied," he said.




"There are a lot of Conservatives turning to UKIP at the moment. Their politics are very honest, very straightforward and they do exactly what they say on the tin."




Debbie Young, the Conservative Party candidate for Stroud Central, said: "One of the reasons why Harry has jumped ship to UKIP is because he wasn’t selected for the seat which I’m standing in so it is a shame really.




"We all have disagreements with our party both locally and nationally but sometimes you just have to swallow it.




"Just like any Labour Party member I would never say I agreed with every single thing my party did. I was outspoken about the incinerator at the district council, for example, but the Conservatives are still my political party."




Mr Carr and Cllr Young will also be standing against the current Green Party councillor, Sarah Lunnon, Labour's Tosca Cabello-Watson, and Adrian Walker-Smith of the Liberal Democrats in the elections on May 2.

http://www.bloggers4ukip.org.uk/2013/04/conservative-member-of-50-years-defects.html

skinny - 09 Apr 2013 20:29 - 23201 of 81564

An interesting read - particularly "Who was Involved".

The August riots in England Understanding the involvement of young people

goldfinger - 09 Apr 2013 20:31 - 23202 of 81564

Spot on Skinny just goes to show how the young and students of this country are totaly fed up with the tory party.

The derision shows no class barriers amongst the young.
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