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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 10 Apr 2013 09:40 - 23284 of 81564

CC to use tax payers money to put her to rest is a national disgrace
disabled people are having benefits cut to save money and then they say
they are going to spend over 10 million for her funeral
if the cons want a big funeral then theyu should pay not use my TAXES
cameron is a liar we are all in it together what a bloody lie

cynic - 10 Apr 2013 09:52 - 23285 of 81564

let's knock this funeral nonsense on the head once and for all ...... the format of MT's funeral was determined a good number of years back, i think by parliament (could easily be checked) but certainly not by MT or her family ....... i think WSC had a full state funeral, but MT's is a step below that ...... clearly the queen thought highly enough of her to be attending the funeral in person

for myself, i'm not sure where i stand on the issue, though that indicates that i have no strong feelings one way or the other ..... it would be interesting to know whether the likes of palmerston were accorded a similar honour, and despite the rabid dogs, it is likely that history will also hold MT in high esteem

ahoj - 10 Apr 2013 09:56 - 23286 of 81564

I am sure many jobless people will be very upset when they hear that £5-£10 million is being wasted and they have no job or future for themselves or their children. I will be surprised if they don't protest!

What about other MPs?

It appears that Cameron is happy to waste so much money for the funeral!!!

He is ignorant, in the same way as the other two main party leaders are.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2013 09:59 - 23287 of 81564

£5m to £10m.......... more than that....... MPs told can claim up to £3,750 each to break holidays for today's Thatcher tributes.

TANKER - 10 Apr 2013 10:03 - 23288 of 81564

cynic reports say she was a asian racist and he as been on tv this marning to say this

thatcher warned him about immigrants and warned him to keep them out of aussie
so your hero was a racist
to spend tax payers money to honour a racist so is it now alright to speak out like she did

ahoj - 10 Apr 2013 10:07 - 23289 of 81564

Margaret Thatcher critics plan celebrations before funeral

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-critics-celebrations-funeral

I am sure Cameron understand that so many people hate her as they believe that she was responsible for many (probably most) problems in the country. He should stop wasting money.

We need spending on fundamental issues, like rails, roads, industry, etc, not wasting money for funeral.

ahoj - 10 Apr 2013 10:08 - 23290 of 81564

A Thatcher state funeral would be bound to lead to protests

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/04/margaret-thatcher-state-funeral-protests

"CAMERON WAKE UP"

Chris Carson - 10 Apr 2013 10:18 - 23291 of 81564

TANK - Just how thick are you? who broke this alleged story? which party again does this Australian represent? I know it's hard mate but activate what few brain cells you possess. Today is Wednesday, by Friday every left wing loon tune on the planet will have you convinced that Thatcher was planted on earth by Aliens, or was the daughter of Hitler.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2013 10:26 - 23292 of 81564

I see from above that 'goldplunger' has become the king of cut and paste.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2013 11:05 - 23293 of 81564

The EU rebate that Margaret Thatcher negotiated has netted us £75 billion so far.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2013 11:12 - 23294 of 81564

There is speculation that Port Stanley in the Falklands will be renamed Port Margaret.

Dil - 10 Apr 2013 11:32 - 23295 of 81564

Would have saved a lot more if we hadn't joined in the first place Haystack and she only renegotiated the crap Heath signed when we joined.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2013 11:39 - 23296 of 81564

Chris old mucker, have you seen this......... (doesnt do much for your and your freinds reputations) Good old Haystacks.

Margaret Thatcher accused of holding 'unabashedly racist' views

Australian foreign minister, Bob Carr, reveals former British PM warned him of challenge posed by immigration


Nicholas Watt, chief political correspondent

guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 9 April 2013 23.49 BST



Australia's foreign minister, Bob Carr, said that Margaret Thatcher pleaded with him to ensure Sydney did not 'end up like Fiji'. Photograph: Achmad Ibrahim/AP


Margaret Thatcher has been accused by the Australian foreign minister of having held "unabashedly racist" views after he revealed that the late former British prime minister had warned him of the challenge posed by immigration from Asia.

Bob Carr, who served as premier of New South Wales between 1995 and 2005, said that Thatcher pleaded with him to ensure Sydney did not "end up like Fiji" where citizens of Indian heritage formed a majority until a coup in 1987.

Carr, whose wife is of Malaysian origin, spoke of his surprise at Thatcher's remarks. The senator told the Lateline programme on ABC TV: "I recall one conversation I had with her in her retirement where she said something that was unabashedly racist, where she warned Australia – talking to me with Helena [his wife] standing not far away – against Asian immigration, saying that if we allowed too much of it we'd see the natives of the land, the European settlers, overtaken by migrants."

Carr expressed astonishment when Thatcher drew an analogy with Fiji, where the Indo-Fijian community formed a majority of the population in 1970 when it achieved independence from Britain. The community, descendants of labourers who travelled to the former British colony to work on sugar plantations in the late 19th century, has fallen to just over 38% in the last two decades after a 1987 coup. In 2000 Mahendra Chaudhry, the first Indo-Fijian prime minister, was taken hostage in another coup.

Carr said: "I was astonished. Helena fortunately was out of earshot. I remember one thing she [Thatcher] said as part of that conversation. She said: 'You will end up like Fiji. I like Sydney but you can't allow the [Asian] migrants … to take over otherwise you will end up like Fiji where the Indian migrants have taken over."

The foreign minister added: "I was so astonished I don't think I could think of an appropriate reply. I think we moved on to other subjects pretty quickly."

Carr, a Labour senator who was appointed foreign minister after the resignation of the former prime minister Kevin Rudd last year, made clear that he still respected Thatcher on the grounds that she challenged the centre-left to modernise.

He said: "She produced a realignment of politics. She forced my side of politics, the social democrat parties, to think more deeply about the role and function of the state, of the public sector. [She] forced Labour parties around the world to consider whether government could remotely pretend to be the answer to many of the problems it was assumed it could be. I also think she was right in joining Reagan and denouncing the old Soviet Union as an evil dictatorship."

Carr's remarks contrasted with warm praise for Thatcher from Julia Gillard, Australia's British-born and first woman prime minister. Speaking in Beijing, she said: "Her service as the first female prime minister of the United Kingdom was a history-making achievement. Her strength of conviction was recognised by her closest supporters and her strongest opponents."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-accused-racist-views?CMP=twt_gu







Haystack - 10 Apr 2013 11:44 - 23297 of 81564

It is just Bob Carr, as usual, trying to make a political point. What she said has some merit. She was suggesting Australia limit immigration from countries that would change the culture of the country. That seems to be the same dialogue we are having now but too late.

doodlebug4 - 10 Apr 2013 11:45 - 23298 of 81564

I think you already posted that Guardian article in the early hours of this morning gf.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2013 11:52 - 23299 of 81564

Yes I have but chris hasnt seen it yet. Just tell him Ive linked it onto twitter so IT WILL be half way round the world come friday.

Hope you had a better nights sleep DB, those nasty anti left wing non Maggie fans.

New house hunting job today then?.

Chris Carson - 10 Apr 2013 11:53 - 23300 of 81564

GF - LOL left wing shite as per mate, is that the best you got? You are much better at picking stocks, give up making a pillock of yourself.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2013 11:55 - 23301 of 81564

3m,

When Stalin and Hitler died, some rejoiced and cheered, some mourned.

While wandering around Europe in the 90s came across a German mourning the death of Hitler and lighting a candle to iconic photograph of Hitler.

Surprised me, but to each, their own.

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I think, the proposed "state" funeral, is another Cameron and con party stunt to divert attention to from his appalling failures and current policies he is forcing through.

Also, he attempting by use public money for party political purposes, to sway the party diminishing faithful, who are rapidly recognising him as a fraud and a failure, to stick with his sinking ship.

He is costing for the public approximately £10million to burn her, but at the same time denying “welfare support” for others who are in more need.

Thatcher was over hyped by the Murdock and right wing press, who relied on little Englanders' naivety to keep her and them in “power”.

I suggest you look at the policies she introduced to her "reign", the "rich" who she pandered to and fragmentation and atomisation of society she produced in the UK..

She was the driving force of mean, deplorable policies which eventually stuck in the throats of her own cabinet, who "killed" her off, and which in private rejoiced in doing so.

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Hays,

Sometimes, in the past I thought your postings were interesting, although I disagreed with many of your stances, but your recent posting seem to show the zeal of the village idiot who shouts mindlessly on the village green at passing shadows.



GF.


Thank you for Postings 23252 and 23254.

One can seen the usual band of failures, feebly clinging to each other trying to support their delusions.

Of course there will be the usual denials from some, who prefer to scapegoat others for the results of their actions.

The tory party is still continuing with its attempts to con the public into believing that the “elitist looney right” with its few remaining few affiliates are fit to govern.

A state of denial.

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I don't think Maggie was more of a racist than many others in that party, but just another deluded egocentric elitist.

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Stan,

I hope the pub hasn't run dry.

hilary - 10 Apr 2013 12:21 - 23302 of 81564

Margreat
Maggie voted No1 Prime Minister as UK gives verdict

More than a quarter of all those surveyed hailed her as Britain’s most popular PM since World War Two.

An overwhelming 28 per cent of people interviewed opted for Maggie as “the greatest” out of 13 Prime Ministers we have had since 1945.

She even eclipsed legendary Sir Winston Churchill, who came second in the poll. Churchill, who as well as being Britain’s wartime leader was also PM from 1951-55, won 24 per cent of support.




goldfinger - 10 Apr 2013 12:24 - 23303 of 81564

Afternoon Fred, the right are imploding here this morning.

Young chris(poor simple lad) has just had a right go at haystacks re- to haystacks bringing up Thatcher as a racist.
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