goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
ahoj
- 10 Apr 2013 09:56
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I am sure many jobless people will be very upset when they hear that £5-£10 million is being wasted and they have no job or future for themselves or their children. I will be surprised if they don't protest!
What about other MPs?
It appears that Cameron is happy to waste so much money for the funeral!!!
He is ignorant, in the same way as the other two main party leaders are.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 09:59
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£5m to £10m.......... more than that....... MPs told can claim up to £3,750 each to break holidays for today's Thatcher tributes.
TANKER
- 10 Apr 2013 10:03
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cynic reports say she was a asian racist and he as been on tv this marning to say this
thatcher warned him about immigrants and warned him to keep them out of aussie
so your hero was a racist
to spend tax payers money to honour a racist so is it now alright to speak out like she did
ahoj
- 10 Apr 2013 10:07
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Margaret Thatcher critics plan celebrations before funeral
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-critics-celebrations-funeral
I am sure Cameron understand that so many people hate her as they believe that she was responsible for many (probably most) problems in the country. He should stop wasting money.
We need spending on fundamental issues, like rails, roads, industry, etc, not wasting money for funeral.
ahoj
- 10 Apr 2013 10:08
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A Thatcher state funeral would be bound to lead to protests
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/04/margaret-thatcher-state-funeral-protests
"CAMERON WAKE UP"
Chris Carson
- 10 Apr 2013 10:18
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TANK - Just how thick are you? who broke this alleged story? which party again does this Australian represent? I know it's hard mate but activate what few brain cells you possess. Today is Wednesday, by Friday every left wing loon tune on the planet will have you convinced that Thatcher was planted on earth by Aliens, or was the daughter of Hitler.
Haystack
- 10 Apr 2013 10:26
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I see from above that 'goldplunger' has become the king of cut and paste.
Haystack
- 10 Apr 2013 11:05
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The EU rebate that Margaret Thatcher negotiated has netted us £75 billion so far.
Haystack
- 10 Apr 2013 11:12
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There is speculation that Port Stanley in the Falklands will be renamed Port Margaret.
Dil
- 10 Apr 2013 11:32
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Would have saved a lot more if we hadn't joined in the first place Haystack and she only renegotiated the crap Heath signed when we joined.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 11:39
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Chris old mucker, have you seen this......... (doesnt do much for your and your freinds reputations) Good old Haystacks.
Margaret Thatcher accused of holding 'unabashedly racist' views
Australian foreign minister, Bob Carr, reveals former British PM warned him of challenge posed by immigration
Nicholas Watt, chief political correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 9 April 2013 23.49 BST
Australia's foreign minister, Bob Carr, said that Margaret Thatcher pleaded with him to ensure Sydney did not 'end up like Fiji'. Photograph: Achmad Ibrahim/AP
Margaret Thatcher has been accused by the Australian foreign minister of having held "unabashedly racist" views after he revealed that the late former British prime minister had warned him of the challenge posed by immigration from Asia.
Bob Carr, who served as premier of New South Wales between 1995 and 2005, said that Thatcher pleaded with him to ensure Sydney did not "end up like Fiji" where citizens of Indian heritage formed a majority until a coup in 1987.
Carr, whose wife is of Malaysian origin, spoke of his surprise at Thatcher's remarks. The senator told the Lateline programme on ABC TV: "I recall one conversation I had with her in her retirement where she said something that was unabashedly racist, where she warned Australia – talking to me with Helena [his wife] standing not far away – against Asian immigration, saying that if we allowed too much of it we'd see the natives of the land, the European settlers, overtaken by migrants."
Carr expressed astonishment when Thatcher drew an analogy with Fiji, where the Indo-Fijian community formed a majority of the population in 1970 when it achieved independence from Britain. The community, descendants of labourers who travelled to the former British colony to work on sugar plantations in the late 19th century, has fallen to just over 38% in the last two decades after a 1987 coup. In 2000 Mahendra Chaudhry, the first Indo-Fijian prime minister, was taken hostage in another coup.
Carr said: "I was astonished. Helena fortunately was out of earshot. I remember one thing she [Thatcher] said as part of that conversation. She said: 'You will end up like Fiji. I like Sydney but you can't allow the [Asian] migrants … to take over otherwise you will end up like Fiji where the Indian migrants have taken over."
The foreign minister added: "I was so astonished I don't think I could think of an appropriate reply. I think we moved on to other subjects pretty quickly."
Carr, a Labour senator who was appointed foreign minister after the resignation of the former prime minister Kevin Rudd last year, made clear that he still respected Thatcher on the grounds that she challenged the centre-left to modernise.
He said: "She produced a realignment of politics. She forced my side of politics, the social democrat parties, to think more deeply about the role and function of the state, of the public sector. [She] forced Labour parties around the world to consider whether government could remotely pretend to be the answer to many of the problems it was assumed it could be. I also think she was right in joining Reagan and denouncing the old Soviet Union as an evil dictatorship."
Carr's remarks contrasted with warm praise for Thatcher from Julia Gillard, Australia's British-born and first woman prime minister. Speaking in Beijing, she said: "Her service as the first female prime minister of the United Kingdom was a history-making achievement. Her strength of conviction was recognised by her closest supporters and her strongest opponents."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-accused-racist-views?CMP=twt_gu
Haystack
- 10 Apr 2013 11:44
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It is just Bob Carr, as usual, trying to make a political point. What she said has some merit. She was suggesting Australia limit immigration from countries that would change the culture of the country. That seems to be the same dialogue we are having now but too late.
doodlebug4
- 10 Apr 2013 11:45
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I think you already posted that Guardian article in the early hours of this morning gf.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 11:52
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Yes I have but chris hasnt seen it yet. Just tell him Ive linked it onto twitter so IT WILL be half way round the world come friday.
Hope you had a better nights sleep DB, those nasty anti left wing non Maggie fans.
New house hunting job today then?.
Chris Carson
- 10 Apr 2013 11:53
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GF - LOL left wing shite as per mate, is that the best you got? You are much better at picking stocks, give up making a pillock of yourself.
Fred1new
- 10 Apr 2013 11:55
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3m,
When Stalin and Hitler died, some rejoiced and cheered, some mourned.
While wandering around Europe in the 90s came across a German mourning the death of Hitler and lighting a candle to iconic photograph of Hitler.
Surprised me, but to each, their own.
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I think, the proposed "state" funeral, is another Cameron and con party stunt to divert attention to from his appalling failures and current policies he is forcing through.
Also, he attempting by use public money for party political purposes, to sway the party diminishing faithful, who are rapidly recognising him as a fraud and a failure, to stick with his sinking ship.
He is costing for the public approximately £10million to burn her, but at the same time denying “welfare support” for others who are in more need.
Thatcher was over hyped by the Murdock and right wing press, who relied on little Englanders' naivety to keep her and them in “power”.
I suggest you look at the policies she introduced to her "reign", the "rich" who she pandered to and fragmentation and atomisation of society she produced in the UK..
She was the driving force of mean, deplorable policies which eventually stuck in the throats of her own cabinet, who "killed" her off, and which in private rejoiced in doing so.
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Hays,
Sometimes, in the past I thought your postings were interesting, although I disagreed with many of your stances, but your recent posting seem to show the zeal of the village idiot who shouts mindlessly on the village green at passing shadows.
GF.
Thank you for Postings 23252 and 23254.
One can seen the usual band of failures, feebly clinging to each other trying to support their delusions.
Of course there will be the usual denials from some, who prefer to scapegoat others for the results of their actions.
The tory party is still continuing with its attempts to con the public into believing that the “elitist looney right” with its few remaining few affiliates are fit to govern.
A state of denial.
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I don't think Maggie was more of a racist than many others in that party, but just another deluded egocentric elitist.
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Stan,
I hope the pub hasn't run dry.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 12:24
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Afternoon Fred, the right are imploding here this morning.
Young chris(poor simple lad) has just had a right go at haystacks re- to haystacks bringing up Thatcher as a racist.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 12:28
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Cant do with racists, they make me sick and are dinosaurs of this earth.
Shocked me to find Maggie was a racist aimed at India of all places aswel, a lovely country with lovely people. (suppose this included Pakistan aswel)
Shame on her shame on her I say, the Lady should have been for turning, YES YES YES.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2013 12:32
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Fred weve been in your abscence debating wether Maggie should have such a high profile funeral with all that cost £ 10 million plus spent on it.
Big majority here so far against it.
Poor people having to take cuts and Camoron spending money like water.
I say NO NO NO.