for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

those were in tests not at production speeds.
i could seal them with a tube of glue and call it a test.

Whilst agreeing that according to SEO Greenseal worked excellently when sealing through moisture, there coud be some truth in the comment by jimward "if RF sealing by SEO is so good, these things would be selling like mad by now with all the development time they have had, this may explain why they are not".
Just being devils advocate.

so why have we had no rns to confirm this tey must tell holders,

Doesn't look like new news, i.e. since the placement document. It would be helpful for anyone at the briefing to comment on the explanation for the delays in Greenseal take-up after trials.

Eric

/Mail SEO and ask them if there is any truth in that RF is no ruddy good, your sure to get an honest reply

I see that Tate and Lyle are exploring the full or partial disposal of their European starch operation .Also see on the website a mention of their starches being used for STARPOL.(search starpol)Interesting times.

MP,

Tate & Lyle produces a STARPOL range of starches, nothing to do with SEO's Starpol, though they do have a common link....starch.

http://www.tateandlyle.com/TateAndLyle/products_applications/overview/default.htm?cboCateg=16&cboSubCateg=0&cboApp=0&cboPOS=0&selFuncProp=&txtSearchString=&hdnSubmit=1

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn:SEO.L&display=discussion
From the latest article re the Tesco going green, Asda are mentioned. The last sentence says it all.

Just the fact that it is owned by the US monolith Wal-Mart tends to raise the hackles of environmentalists, but it has set itself bold targets of sending "zero waste to landfill by 2010" and "reducing carbon emissions by 80,000 tonnes by 2007 compared with a 2001 baseline". However, with regards to packaging, the commitments seem a little fuzzier: it says it aims to deliver "absolute reductions in packaging weight by the end of March 2010". Asda's efforts regarding waste reduction were "poor", according to the NCC report.

Saying that, greekman, I got an e-mail that I copied on here from Asda stating that all its own brand vegetables were to be in "green bin friendly" packaging by March (or was it May) 2007.
No idea what that means but the time draws closer. I did ask for clarification and was deafened by the silence.
Alan

Hi Alan,

It appears there are plenty of snippets out there but as you say the silence re solid news is deafening.

Greek.

Even my imaginary friend has adopted the old adage of when there is nowt to say - say nowt.
I have approached Asda asking what exactly they mean by green bin friendly, approached him asking if SEO were still getting the contracts for Asda packaging as he told me they were and approached SEO asking what the hell is going on.
My friend was the only one with the decency to reply and all he could say was he was perplexed by the lengthened timescales because nothing he was aware of had changed.
Alan

Not sure if anyone posted this from the Proseal website:

http://www.prosealuk.com/news_2006_005.php

Trays' success is effectively sealed
RELEASE REF: PRO/2006/005
ISSUE DATE: 3 July 2006

Special contribution for Food Magazine................................
......................
.....The environmental debate also poses a challenge to current heat-sealing technologies. When two different plastics are sealed together (for example polyethylene film onto a polyester tray) the materials need to be laminated first for the sealing to be effective. This makes the materials - notably the skeletal waste - non-recyclable.

Another potential problem for traditional heat sealing methods is that any contamination that gets into the seal can prevent the pack from being closed properly, thus affecting the shelf life of the product and possibly meaning the food is wasted or goes off before its sell-by date. This is a particular problem for products with a high sauce content or where the ingredients include very small items.

Tray sealing manufacturers have therefore been working on the next stage of technology that can address these problems, using Radio Frequency (RF). In our case, we have been working with Stanelco PLC, the RF applications group, in the development of a new RF sealing machine.

Radio Frequency heating works by changing the molecular structure of the materials that are being welded, causing the materials to be heated from the inside out. The technology allows the same material to be used for either a weld seal or a peel seal and with no water-cooling or cooling period required, tool changes can be effected very quickly.

This technology offers an important extension to existing equipment, in particular providing a more effective sealing solution for applications in which the potential for seal contamination is rife and where traditional sealing machines are therefore less effective.

Another benefit of RF heating is that, since it can weld together different materials without the need for lamination, any skeletal waste can be 100% re-used.

As with any emerging technology, RF is still relatively new and further development work will take place in the coming months and years to refine the systems and bring a range of machines to the commercial market. The technology may not be right or appropriate for every application but it will have a valuable role to play alongside traditional heat-sealing systems.

Clearly in an ever developing and increasingly demanding food industry, tray sealing has the flexibility and technology to meet a myriad of requirements. From retailer demands for effective pack presentation and increased product quality to manufacturers' needs for fast, efficient throughput, extended shelf life and reliable seals, tray sealing is proving itself very much a packaging process for today - and tomorrow.

Garyble.

Great find. New to me. Posts and links like that bring me out of my hibernation!

"...further development work will take place in the coming months and years.." sums up where we are.

It took TetraPak nearly 20 years to refine their invention to be the product we now know and the success we recognise. Remember those triangular milk cartons sold in machines in the 60s? They always leaked on the car floor while going home in a haze of exotic smoke and trance from the love in/orgy or whatever you did in those days. I can't exactly remember - proving I was there doing it ;-)

I don't think we will have to wait as long, but remember it takes giant corporations such as CocaCola, McDonalds etc years to change it's products and their design and presentation. Much the same for lesser outfits seeking similar World domination in their respective fields - including food processors and retailers.

As with most emerging, revolutionary new products/processes, I expect no quick "whizz bang" announcements but steady progress.

I believe the coming 12 months will reveal the true future worth of SEO.

And I am highly optimistic.

Sorry if you chaps have seen this before, but too good to leave.
From 'notyetbankrupt' 3i site.

http://www.meatnews.com/mp2/northamerican/index.cfm?artNum=928
We are near the bottom of the page.

Nice find Patsear but it looks as though the author is getting his information from old news releases(the article is dated 20/1 /07),or are the retrofits of 100 machines still on the cards once the trials are finished succesfully whenever that might be?Having heard nothing to the contrary I am going to assume yes,but it's all taking so bloody long!Might try to contact him on Monday if I have time to see if he knows anything we don't and find out where he researched the article.Maestro where's this imminent news then?

Mad Pad

Sorry, but I'm in the dark as much as you, but reading it is helping me get over my hangover.[A little excitement].
Yeah I know, a lonely, desperate poor man, who gets excited by snippets of news about SEO.
BUT, always thinking of positive times ahead.

This does appear to be a re-relase of an article written in 10/05 and I can't understand why the page is dated 1/07 ?

Bottom line Tony is that they only have 12 months, if they cant crack it in that time then they are doomed.

Patisear & MP,

I'd bet the date is simply a "current date" stamp.

Tony,

Nice to see an OEM seriously commenting on GS and its development etc, though I am concerned about the time it has taken.

quote tonyrelaxes : "I can't exactly remember - proving I was there doing it ;-)"
excellent tony !