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quote tonyrelaxes : "I can't exactly remember - proving I was there doing it ;-)"
excellent tony !

I hope this is not another false dawn but it appears we are in bed with Sainsburys at last GM or no GM!See post 79194 on dark side and follow link to Sainsburys website.

The article on the dark side is from the Sainsbury archive material which you access by clicking on their web site.

I checked it out and it appears to be old news - archive - and not current.

Sorry.

To clarify:

In the archive section it is under:

Sainsburys develop edible packaging

This is not new news and as we have not heard anything since it would appear it was not taken any further - but I hope I am wrong because it sounds great to me!!

Pinn ,then they should at least date it and not refer to a "recent example".Oct 2005 is not recent to me .Oh well back to bed.

GOING STRATOSPHERIC TOMORO....THIS IS VERY RECENT NEWS

Sainsbury's Develops Edible PackagingSainsbury's is always looking at new ways of packaging foods to provide better, more environmentally friendly alternatives for its customers.
A recent example is our work with technology specialist Stanelco Plc and the development of an edible starch packaging, made solely from natural and biodegradable substances, that is set not only to minimise packaging but also provides Sainsbury's customers with 100% product and no wastage.
This innovation will mean that the potato starch packaging becomes an ingredient along with its contents, be it a dried soup or a three-course meal. In fact the ability to flavour the starch with herbs or spices is a new means by which to enhance product flavour as well as package it. The applications for easily prepared, convenient food are endless but fundamentally this is an environmental milestone in an area renowned for its wastefulness.
The search for an alternative to gelatine capsules, following the BSE scare, brought starch into the frame as a viable alternative for an edible packaging that would be safe and easy to absorb. The success of starch in this instance highlighted the greater possibilities for food packaging in general.
Edible packaging is a great alternative for people who don't want the hassle of preparing a snack or meal, or for those who simply don't have the time. It's also good for those who want a convenient way of taking food to work or, for example, on a camping trip, as it requires little preparation. But its most important feature is that it has none of the problems associated with conventional packaging no more one-use wrappers that sit in landfills for years before they start to perish.

Maestro,

Calm down - this IS OLD NEWS NOT NEW-DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

It would be great if it had been news and IF IT HAD then the price would have started going up on friday - but it did not.

So, back to reality.

NO I don't understand...this is the first time i have seen it so it must be very recent news...mms obviously caught napping

OK:

Go to the Sainsbury web-site and look for Sainsbury Edible packaging under ARCHIVE!

You will then see that this is OLD news and not NEW.

I wish I was wrong - sorry.

It is old news, but more recent news includes (a few months ago) Andy Bond of Asda inviting Sainsburys to work with Asda on environmental initiatives and (last week or so) Asda and Sainsburys investigating sharing supply chain logistics, starting with joint warehousing and possibly delivery.
They are working closely.
Alan

Well that was exciting while it lasted.

so, if you think about it, is the thought that supermarkets can be much more "green conscious" and save themselves a fortune too by not wrapping the unnecessary - i.e. sweetcorn and parsnips and onions etc etc

of course that wouldn't do the likes of SEO much good, but then my view of said company is already more than well known.

Not to piss on your argument,cynic......but
If you want loose vegetable you buy them loose.
However I'd like to see you get a salad loose from your local tesco's or for that matter any fruit/veg that has been 'processed' in any way shape or form.
It's all consumer driven... and like it or not Oe public ain't green and never will be.
Long live the idle waste on packaging. I want more...........So long as it's green and made by seo.
That way I can say I'm doing my bit for the environment.:-)
And what exactly is your position on this company- LOL.

tweenie ..... go to France or Italy or Spain then and you'll see loose leaf salad sold loose .... yolu help yourself and put it in a bag ...... now tell me why swedes or bananas or caulifower or cabbages are often displayed wrapped?

my positon on this company, and it has never varied, is that it's CRAP and just wish i had had the balls to short it when first encountered at 3p ..... if the company survives, it will be by pure good fortune - e.g. some company thinks it worth picking up whatever intellectual or technical copyright SEO may have before there is a bun fight when the receiver moves in

Cynic,
If you check the research done by Asda (can't remember where it was published) they had tried to completely do away with packaging and found sales plumetted. A focus group study revealed that their customers want their food in packaging.
They want less unnecessary packaging, more attractive packaging, easier packaging and more environmentally friendly packaging, but they do want packaging!!
You cannot ask the retailers to provide things the customer does not want, so packaging stays, in a reformed way.
The europeans have a greater and more recent history than us of fresh produce bought at local markets, loosely, and the retailers try to emulate that, but it has fallen down here and looks likely not to return.
Anyway, each to their own, but WM would frown just a tad if Asda lost huge amounts of custom by trying to out-green the others.
Alan

and why does some plastic film round a swede make it one iota more attractive? ..... it doesn't of course, any more so than round the bulb of fennel i just bought

I can see it now , pic and mix salad bars at the local tesco's...
HEALTHY!!!
:-)

As for why fruits/veg wrapped. Usually because it's been washed etc and to give customers the opportunity to purchase food that has'nt been poked and fingered by the great unwashed.
No matter how hard we try we'll never be european.
Personally If I want fresh fruit/veg , I goto the farmers market. Not because I'm a snob/green/veggie but because I drive past it on the way to work as they are setting up each week and can get everything in the a.m. away from the crowds and fresh as you like.
If I want out of season stuff or convenience fruit/veg I goto a supermarket... and buy a sealed packet, that has;nt been sniffed,licked or otherwise infected by the local populus.
So they'll always be packaging and as Alan says if the local supermarket only sold loose /non processed greens, I'd find somewhere else. I't ain't asking too much to get your washed ready to eat salad/fruit in a sealed bag, so long as the packagings GREEN.

potatoes, carrots, lettuce, tomatoes etc etc, even in the likes of Tesco, are sold either washed or unwashed or packaged ...... clearly all types sell ...... similarly for a swede or celeriac or sweet corn or avocados etc etc, like a potato, have skins that need to be peeled before use - i.e. they have their own natural wrapping .... so why do any of the above need to be packed in anything else at all?

as i said, if the supermarkets want to be "green conscious" and save a fortune, then it is unpackaged goods that they will no doubt start promoting and strongly, just as they did with organic produce.

in fact, given that it is the people who buy organic who are most likely to the the most "green conscious" that may well be from where they start ...... i know i would if that was my line of biz

And you would be bankrupt.
The point is not what you would do but what the population at large do. They want it packaged. End of story. The challenge for retailers is not to be green, but to appear green AND supply what people want. They do not want loose veg. If they did, the retailers would be reporting lower sales and farmers market owners and local greengrocers would be retiring to the carribean.

but the clear evidence in the supermarket (and of course real markets too) contradicts that ..... if what you said was true, then there would be no unwrapped fruit and veg for sale at all.

my observation was that supermarkets can not only appear "green conscious" but actually be so and make bigger profits, initially by targetting the buyer of organics etc ..... it took a while, but the point was proven that there is a market for this sort of (overpriced!) merchandise, just as there is for frozen pizzas .... do you think that the more expensive "fair trade" products have not found a profitable niche? ..... of course they have, and that is just a progression from the above.

and to answer your other non seq statements ...... good greengrocers thrive, as do good fishmongers and good butchers and good bakers and good hardware stores .... the ones that do, have recognised that they won't beat the supermarket on price, but they can usually/often knock the socks off them for quality and service, for which people will indeed a premium.