Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

The French, Italians and Spanish came here in very large numbers even before WWII. The Italians came to work in the brickworks in Luton, which is why there is such a large Italian population there. Many Italians also went to Glasgow, where there were major violent ice cream wars. Italians populated Clerkenwell in London which is why the very large church there is called the Italian church. Large numbers of Italians were sent to internment camps during the war, mainly on the Isle of Man.

The French came here to run and work in restaurants and in central London there was a French hospital, a pub still called the French pub and numerous French churches. The Spanish came for similar reasons as the French. Large numbers of Germans came as well.

The immigration of Europeans to the UK has been constant since the early 1900s with a few coming during the previous century.

The EU is laying the groundwork for new, centrally planned National Insurance-style numbers for every taxpayer in Europe. The proposal was passed by the Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee last night, and chillingly calls for a ‘European Taxpayer Identification Number’ to keep track of every EU citizen. This is the European Commission text:

“Proper identification of taxpayers is essential to effective exchange of information between tax administrations. The creation of European Taxpayer Identification Number (EU TIN) would provide the best means for this identification. It would allow any third party to quickly, easily and correctly identify and record TINs in cross-border relations and serve as a basis for effective automatic exchange of information between member states tax administrations.”

Brussels wants the ability to track every EU taxpayer, laying the foundations for a new European tax.

The report also calls for the EU to take over member states’ corporate taxation powers with a common corporation tax base, banning sovereign states from increasing their competitiveness by cutting corporation tax below 15%. This is a direct attack on sovereignty and attempt to create a new, centralised EU tax system.

If this free market is so bloody good why can't I buy cigarettes from Spain over the internet or one of those dodgy cakes they sell in dutch cafes over the internet ?

Haystacks in the post today on the influx of French/Italian/Greek we have been discussing the arrival of these nationals due to whats been going on in the EU.

We're aware of the past immigration of these peoples, which was
never at the numbers at which they're now.

There have been far more Italian, French and Spanish come here in the past than are coming now. We have almost the lowest immigration from the EU of all the European countries.

Theres no free market Dil!

Try selling stuff in La Belle France, the paperwork will make you go cross eyed.

Aldwickk....out for me...but I agree with Cynic that looks like remain will win.....crazy really .....some important personalities seem to be under the impression that trading with Europe will just stop....no way...it's just that we will not be present when European standards/agreements are being made...but like the Swiss and Norwegians : we will adjust to the situation and make and sell products to the European standards that will be made available ....

I have to say that more b......t has been spoken during this election than at any previous election/referendum I can remember !.....(mainly from the remain camp)....

It was always going to be like that. It will get worse over the next few weeks. Look at the Scottish referendum.

I have to laugh at will i am , comes on here calling people " twats " , " gobshites " and various other obscenities just because they don't agree with him , thinks he can influence people , had more influence from a 6 year old .

Haystack (2342) "There have been far more Italian, French, and Spanish come here in the past then are coming now"

Yes if you take all the immigration from these countries over a hundred
years, maybe..But when you've got hundreds of thousands coming here
in a matter of a couple of years then that's when you have the problems.

As to "We have almost the lowest immigration from all the EU of the European
countries"


That does not make sense, They've been coming here because they can't find
jobs in their own countries due to the impact of the EU's austerity measures
inflicted on countries like Greece, where unemployment in the 18-25 year olds
is nearly 50%.

There's only been one major country where there's been more immigration
and that's Germany, and caused by Merkels foolish invitation to all that the
doors was open with the welcome mat laid out...

8 million in the next 5 years is the latest prediction (wireless)

Where are they going to put them? What are they going to do for a crust??

The cess pool of debate?

What , who , why , where .

Is that the EU or just Britain MaxK .

No one knows how many but unlike Cameron and his boyfriend i can tell you with pin point accuracy that it will be a lot .

And a PS to my post 2347...That's not counting ALL those from countries like
Romania, Hungary, Etc, etc..Where the wages in the UK are a 6-7 times more
then in their own countries..

It will be unending .

Anyone who thinks that the UK won't carry on being flooded with migrants is barking mad (see Fred) one day in the not too distant future a British government will wake up and say "shit we have a major problem" by then it will be too late (it almost is now)
If we stay in the EU it will without doubt be the end of Britain as we knew it.

There was a program on tv last night 'Nightmare Tentants, Slum Landlords'

It's been aired over the last few weeks, and it shows you houses that have
been turned into HMO, with every room made into a bedsit, so when you've got
a three bed house turned into a house with 6/8 bedsits with dangerous electrics
and dodgy plumbing, and the inhabitants paying 75 pounds a week, its quite a
racket and gives some insight into the disadvantage the British workers are
when it comes to competing with immigration, particularly when
employment agencies advertise directly in other low wage countries to
work in the UK.