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Bioprogress (BPRG)     

scorpion - 13 Aug 2003 13:54

Bioprogress is a stock I have been in and out of quite a few times since it floated in May but not much mention here on the Investors' Room. Does anyone else follow this stock. I see it is up 1.5p today and a few good buyers seem to have appeared.

grandad - 27 Feb 2004 20:47 - 235 of 2372

I second that nematode.

Have a nice weekend all.

Bones - 28 Feb 2004 10:33 - 236 of 2372

Dil - can I assume you have a large short on here? You appear every five minutes with funny stories about the company and why the market should sell it down. If it is charts you are reading, they tell one story only, the trend is UP since May 2003. How do you argue that black is white? More to the point, what importance do you attach to the idea that the company is "leaky". Surely that is a fundamental issue, not a technical one. I do agree though that chartists might refer to fundamentals if it helps justify a trade :)

Dil - 28 Feb 2004 10:49 - 237 of 2372

Only had a position once and then only for a few hours Bones. To be honest I don't know anyone who is short or has been.

Regardless of this all I've done is air a few doubts that I have and also had a go at a few plonkers who I regard as going a bit ott.

Good luck Bones but my sources are not necessarily as bullish as yours , thats life.

Bones - 28 Feb 2004 11:22 - 238 of 2372

Cheers Dil!

The Count - 28 Feb 2004 12:33 - 239 of 2372

THE COUNT--->DIL

You and I have not seen eye to eye on a few things recently.

But I am going to try and redress this a little. I hate to tip a share outright....I usually just post about what I am doing and why I am doing it, and where I think a share could be going in the medium term, and then leave it to people to make their own decisions accordingly.

But I think this story is awesome and I believe, in the absence of the expected announcement about a further deal, and all this talk of further fund raising (can only be seen in a positive light), that we are going to have a spectacular fireworks display for the results day....assuming we don't get any further announcements before the results.

DIL, I think you should tuck a few of these away for a year or two (even at these prices)....you will not be disappointed I'm sure. Now, before anyone else follows my advice, that is only meant for DIL. I only want one person trying to sue me if my advice goes wrong!!!!

If you guys want to knock other stocks with no real substance yet (or that may have run a liitle ahead of reality), then why don't you look at TRK, PRM, GHT, TDM and, dare I say it KTS (nah, only kidding about that last one)?

I might just get to make it on your Christmas card list with that tip.

All IMHO of course.

THE COUNT!

jfletendre - 28 Feb 2004 13:01 - 240 of 2372

The Count -
just wanted to say that I (and I'm sure lots of other people) really appreciate your posts over here at moneyam and PLEASE would you post here each time you post on advfn - it has become impossible to keep abreast on the 600+ a day advfn posts
regards
Anna

nematode - 28 Feb 2004 14:51 - 241 of 2372

TARGETS:
Expect 1.80-2.00 by next w/e if no news
Expect 2+ if OTC deal announced
Expect 1.70 if plcing is announced (IMO this would have to be accompanied by a relevant PR related to the OTC deal)

This IS without question the most exciting stock on today's market.

The blue touch paper is about to be lit.
I'm also..... "expecting the unexpected."

Though I think next Friday there may be a huge load of buys prior to results on Monday.

The above figs based on what people have said on various boards and my own limited research.

Regards Nematode.

Scottie - 28 Feb 2004 15:19 - 242 of 2372

Thanks nematode I just give an honest opinion and get told to piss off. Posters like you give bulletin boards a bad name.

nematode - 28 Feb 2004 15:41 - 243 of 2372

No mate,if you are not interested in BPRG then why hang around with negative posts which add nothing to the value of this thread,however if you've got something to say from your time spent researching the company then you are more than welcome to do so.

Scottie - 28 Feb 2004 16:41 - 244 of 2372

I am interested in BPRG, otherwise I wouldn't bother reading this thread. imop the price went up far too quickly and when it fell like a stone a lot of punters got their fingers burnt. I was thinking of buying back in but I'm not convinced that now is the right time for various reasons, the situation with Stanelco being one. Also I think if you have, in your own words, done " limited research " you shouldn't make assertions like " the blue touch paper is about to be lit", and " this is without question the most exciting stock in today's market". I do agree with you that there may be a lot of buying before the results on the 8th, but how the market reacts to these results is anyone's guess.

SueHelen - 28 Feb 2004 17:20 - 245 of 2372

Bioprogress plans placing at 100p
Tim Freeborn
Announcement likely next week; placing at very deep discount

BioProgress Technology Internatinal(BPRG), the current punters favourite, is planning a placing next week at 100p. One investor was told he had to pay by next Wednesday.

In December the company raised 7m at 50p to fund the building of a factory to make its patented Xgel film.

The new placing is likely to coincide with a deal with a US maker of non-prescription medicines. This was promised by the end of January but has apparently been delayed because BioProgress concentrated on the link-up with FMC Biopolymer which was announced on 4 February and sent the shares soaring.

BioProgress has made a habit of raising money at a deep discount. It was floated early last year at 14p, around a third below its price on the Nasdaq OTC market. The December placing was also a third below its then price.

Late morning Bioprogress shares were down 3.9% to 132.5p. The company plans to post its preliminary results for the trading period from 22 May 2003 to 31 December 2003 on Monday 8 March.


chartist2004 - 28 Feb 2004 18:27 - 246 of 2372

Goldfinger - Good call on 04-02-04 you have inside info;?
Results 08-03-04, where do you see BPRG by mid year? tia...

Dil - 28 Feb 2004 19:31 - 247 of 2372

Cheers Count , I'll drop you a line next week but in the mean time my tip for you is .... Arsenal for the league :-)

The Count - 28 Feb 2004 19:47 - 248 of 2372

THE COUNT--->DIL

Some bloody tip.

I think I'm going to throw up now that you've mentioned it. Who can catch them now?

THE COUNT!

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2004 23:12 - 249 of 2372

Hi chartist2004, I never like to give or set price targets, thats up to the market. One as to ask though if this news from Tim Freeborn is correct what is the new money needed for???????.

A, they are running out of working capital since the rights issue before Xmas,

B, they are working together with a large US company in partnership on some further big capital project,

C, they feel they need to refinance the balance sheet before a whole raft of deals after the results

D, It maybe a combination of all three above

Perhaps the line where Tim says one investor was told he needed to pay the money before wednesday is the big give away, surely this means news will be forthcoming not wether, but that the deal as been done and that the news will be out in the Public Domain by at least Wednesday.

Personaly for myself, the sooner the better, as all this speculation doesnt do much for the blood pressure. Having a look on our competitors site one can only describe it as a nuthouse.

I still feel very confident and have indeed heard news that there is no need for panic, not that I ever did feel need to panic.

Some have called it a leaky stock on here, but come on lets face it the leaks are coming from punters, and not investors or the management.

Good luck to all.

cheers GF.

chartist2004 - 28 Feb 2004 23:26 - 250 of 2372

GF. thanks for the reply, was thinking of bagging a few but I'll take a rain check for now and watch how thing span out next week.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2004 23:34 - 251 of 2372

Hi chartist2004 hope my post didnt come over as negative as it wasnt meant to be. Im very positive on this one, just think theres too much silly hype sorrounding it at the moment, both ways.

cheers GF.

The Count - 29 Feb 2004 00:30 - 252 of 2372

THE COUNT--->GOLDFINGER

Isn't there silly hype on just about every thread of any stock that begins to attract hot attention?

Do you let muppets who don't even know what the company does scare you from your own belief of where the stock may or may not be heading?

When I read some of the crap on the various BBs, I wonder whether some of those idiots should be banned from investing their own money for their own protection. But such is life.

THE COUNT!

Dil - 29 Feb 2004 01:44 - 253 of 2372

GF is one of the main sources of the silly hype aren't you GF ?

nematode - 29 Feb 2004 07:38 - 254 of 2372

From Lemmings...


Bioprogress, A classic tree shake, or are investors simply activating their
stop-losses, or could there be a sea change in sentiment? Well, this lemming activated his stop-loss yesterday.just as well as another 16.5% is wiped off, down from a high of 164p to 122p. I may have the chance to buy back in at 110/115p before events turn for the better. Who knows, I may end up ruing my strategy. All in the timing as they say.

One broker known to lemming cites that mm`s are manipulating the share price ahead of what is expected to be a significant news item which is expected within days. Probably on the March 8. The same source says that mm`s are short of stock.

This is a classic way of ruffling a few feathers in winter forcing those with few feathers left to sell the nest egg for a winter warmer. This may or may not be accurate analysis of the past 3 days trades, but one has to wonder what will happen once the assumed announcement is as expect, announced. Would the mm`s have you chase up and over the 164pprobably!




I don't think that enough weight has been given to the enormity of the two FMC undertakings to spend at least $80m with BPRG in each case. Where else, or how often do we see contracts of that magnitude? Certainly not in the AIM or Small Cap sector. Only the capital equipment stocks in the Footsie 100, and construction , property, and resource stocks in the FT250, report deals of that size.

NXT, Imagination, Skyepharma, ARM, Autonomy, Xaar, Torotrak and Antonov, Oystertec, Aerobox, are only a few of the many IP companies which have recently closed well received contracts with global firms, and whose shares have since been rising, in some cases swiftly. For security reasons, most of these agreements have no value ascribed to them, or if they do, consist of 1-2m down payments or less, and tiny royalties which might earn 1-2m/pa, and even that not for three years.

The "at least $160m" , FMC contract is big enough to imply that BPRG is a FT 250-stock-in-the-making at the very least. FMC would not have committed to such a large deal if BPRG had looked like remaining a small time company with small-time directors remaining a Small Cap stock - let alone an AIM stock, And the lowest Footsie 250 stocks have a cap value of around 300m except for two or three which have fallen further and will probably be relegated. This corresponds to roughly 2.95 for a share in BPRG. The middle of the FT250 is inhabited by caps of around 600m equivalent to a share price of 5.90

From Edward Kalfayan(Lemmings)


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