It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

... And what was the score?

Arsenal 1 - Ramsey 2 ... we won :-)

Well thats one way of looking at it -):

LOL

I see the Chuckle brothers are alive and kicking !

Yes?... Can we help you further?

Dil,

What was up with the crowd and the team? Didn't seem to be the same intensity as the week before. Sounded like the fans didn't get going until about 50 minutes when the players had a 10 minute spell - of course the audio set up might have changed - and the decision making and quality of delivery were at a lower level.

Cheers,
KidA

Roberto Martinez has vowed to end the inferiority complex that has plagued Everton at the Premier League’s toughest venues when he leads his side to Manchester United tomorrow.


It is 11 years and 47 league games since Everton won at one of Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge or away to Arsenal.


Martinez’s predecessor David Moyes could not end the hoodoo and one quote from the current United boss especially rankled with his former supporters when he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson.


“I remember going there as a manager. You want to get out of Old Trafford alive, that used to be our saying,” Moyes said in July.


Martinez wants Everton to be seen as the peers of the Premier League elite rather than wilt in such grand surroundings.



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“We need to be ourselves,” said Martinez.

“The challenge is can we go into the big places like Old Trafford, the Emirates, Anfield and Stamford Bridge and get wins?

“We need to be creative from a football point of view. Unless you experiment on the pitch you will never be able to beat teams with bigger budgets.

“If you want to assess any sort of dynamics you want to be brave and trying and win games rather than just being in a position where you want to keep a clean sheet and get through in damage limitation situations.”

While Moyes was perceived as a cautious coach, Martinez believes his successes against the wealthier clubs while Wigan manager underlines his approach.

“When I went to Wigan we had never beaten a team in the top four at home never mind away,” he said.

“It took a little bit of process but we ended up beating Arsenal and Liverpool away and Manchester United and Chelsea at home and that is something we need to achieve in any team if you want to be successful.

“I feel we are ready to compete against anyone at Everton, my next step is to make sure I can give an advantage to the players so that they can compete against anyone wherever they are in the league.

“Everyone who supports the club would expect Everton to go to Old Trafford, perform well and try to win the game.

"To be able to go there and be the first group of players to win in the last 11 years is a fantastic stimulation.”

Moyes faces the Everton fans for the first time since his summer departure, although after his efforts to sign Leighton Baines last summer the reaction towards him might be mixed.

“As a manager taking over from what David Moyes did at this football club I can only praise his role, what he has done and the state of the football club when he left,” said Martinez.

“I also think it's fair that every Evertonian should have their own view and opinion about how things did develop. You are allowed to make your own assessments and have your own views.”

KidA ... problems with the stewards deciding to crack down on certain sections of the crowd standing in non standing areas didn't help.

Plus the fact Cardiff don't hate Arsenal (Ramsey effect) as much as Man U and Scumsea.

Our real season kicks off tonight away to Stoke. So far we have only played teams from the top half of the table at home except Scumsea and they would be in the top half of the table if we hadn't beaten them but this month home and away we got a good chance in all games except maybe Liverpool away.

Looking for at least 9 points from our 6 games in December as we can write most of January off as we got Arsenal . Man U and Man C away.

We might be able to help you with points, if you've got any money left that is -):

Dil [Send an email to Dil] [View Dil's profile] - 04 Dec 2013 09:07 - 2360 of 2361
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Plus the fact Cardiff don't hate Arsenal (Ramsey effect) as much as Man U and Scumsea.

...

Could sense it. :)

Keeping an eye on Whittingham for fantasy football and noticed the fixtures; he has a decent haul for a player within my exclusion zone - no Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester City allowed.

Cheers,
KidA

THE SUN IS OUT!




THE SKY IS BLUE!




ISN'T IT GREAT!




WHEN YOU BEAT MAN U !

From my seat: Man Utd (A)
By Ken Buckley :: 05/12/2013
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There was singing on trains, coaches and cars as we descended on Sky’s darlings with loaded Kalashnikovs ready for a proper gunfight. As it turned-out, the homeward journey would be twice as nice and twice as loud.
Teams announced and Deulofeu and Osman make way for Mirallas and Barkley; otherwise, as you were from Saturday. Moyes was given a greeting of sorts but I won’t get too deep into that... Kick-off and we defended our end and right away you could just tell everyone was up for it — fans and players alike.

Both teams started fast but we had the best of limited chances with a Lukaku effort and Mirallas had one tipped over. The game was certainly end to end but United at home must have thought they were playing a top Champions League side as we were giving more than we got and, when they did threaten, we were resolute. Yes, it was early in the game.... but you couldn’t help but get the feeling we were in with more than a shout; not easy... but certainly possible.

End-to-end stuff saw Lukaku use strength to get through but he delayed his shot and Utd broke and Howard made a good block. Twenty minutes flew by... then, from a cross, Giggs glanced a header just wide. Then we had a great break led by Lukaku and were four on two but – would you believe – Lukaku passed to Smalling!! And the chance was gone... a bit of a let- down, that. We then had a scare as Rooney did well on the edge of our box and got in a shot that deflected onto our post and out, Howard was fast to react and sort of slid and cleared.

Fifteen minutes to half-time and Utd had a purple patch; they hemmed us in as they had plenty of possession and we helped them by being a bit careless with the ball when we broke up attacks and tried to get out. My thoughts turned to Oviedo who many thought might be troubled by Valencia but the lad was doing great as Valencia was in the main quiet.

Just before half-time, we broke again with three-on-one but the otherwise excellent Barkley got the wrong weight on his pass and left Lukaku stranded, allowing Utd one more break which ended in a free-kick that came to naught and the whistle went.

Half-time: the chat centred on how well we coped with Rooney, Howard again having a great game. It was agreed: we were able to handle any pressure Utd mounted, with Jags outstanding and, on the plus side, how well and quickly we were breaking and getting in some great positions. Alas, that final ball was poor each time but another half to get it right. With better passes and finishes, we could have led...

Second half and a mighty roar from the fans in Blue left the players in no doubt what this half meant. But Utd were first to attack and Evra was allowed the room to strike one with venom, luckily straight at Howard who fisted with the power of Tony Bellew and cleared. Bit of end-to-end stuff until Barkley and Pienaar swapped passes and forced a corner then Pienaar put Mirallas in but his shot was with power, without direction.

The managers stalked their technical areas and Moyes was first to blink when, early in the half, he made two subs: Kagawa and Rafael off; Januzaj and Nani on. "He must be worried," I thought it is very early for him. Nani had a foray forward right away but his shot was very high. The game settled somewhat and both teams were giving respect to each other and both defences were in control.

Somewhere around 70 mins Roberto, swaps Barkley for Deulofeu and both got great receptions from the faithful. I got the impression that, if the sub had been anyone other than Deulofeu for Barkley, there would have been mutterings. As soon as he was on, he was put away and his pace put him in on the keeper and yet again he showed the biggest flaw in his game so far. He can’t finish one-on-one. Another shot at the keeper’s legs. Might be worth getting Lineker down to Finch Farm because he was boss at it.

We almost paid for that miss when Utd went down the other end and had a good shot tipped over by Howard. From the resultant corner, all hell and mayhem took place. Howard made a great save to push one out, someone shot and hit the bar with the ball falling to Rooney who relieved the pressure for us by hitting wildly over, bless him.

Utd were now having another purple patch and I checked the time: 75 mins gone... I admit, a hint of worry but the sight of Jags leading by example gets me through it. The boy wonder Januzaj seems to be playing in roller skates as he spends more time on the deck than playing for his team; fair play to the ref –he only fell for it twice. When I saw who was reffing, I did have doubts but, fair play, he did fine in a modern way. ie, 'Managing a match'!

Utd were getting ever more edgy and we were resolutely trying to keep the ball for periods and look for a quick ball into the box. We had one move of a dozen passes that ended with Oviedo over-hitting his cross but it still fell for Deulofeu but his first touch was woeful and the ball bounced out for a goal-kick. His brain seems miles faster than his feet. When he gets that right — look out!

Pienaar had another good game but was definitely targeted and had taken a bit of a kicking so, with 10 mins to go, Osman replaced him.

We were finishing the stronger and our ex-player Fellaini took out McCarthy with a high one and then Vidic did Osman and Valencia took out Coleman — all in the space of minutes... but, if anything, it spurred on the Blues as it indicated that was all they had left and knew we were on top. They gave away another free kick for a cynical foul and Mirallas took it, beat the keeper but hit the post. The ball stayed alive and so began the move that sent so very many Blues into raptures. I can see it all clearly now: The ball went to Deulofeu who ran at their defence and into the box; the weight of numbers took it off him but the ball went wide and Oviedo crossed right across goal but found Coleman well forward, he checked his options and reversed a pass to McCarthy who saw no way forward so instead gave it to the outstanding Jags who had come forward. He raced a few paces forward and got it into Lukaku who controlled and tried a shot that turned into a pass across goal and fed Oviedo who from an acute angle fired home.

Now amid the sort of celebrations that took place, god knows what really happened except for an outpouring of unbridled joy as 21 years of waiting was over – and against the man who did so much to steady us and put us in a good position, only to sour it spectacularly with his departure lies and antics. The mighty chorus of ‘You’re getting sacked in the morning’ after singing ‘Are you watching, Davy Moyes’ was somehow a message – WE ARE EVERTON!!!

Fans and players were confident we could see it out and, by the demeanour of the opposition, so could they. Led by Jags, we were a rash all over them till the final whistle after 4 mins of added. That shrill whistle brought scenes not seen for many a day. The Mancs disappeared as if by magic but the Blues stayed on and so did the players. Was that Distin with Oviedo on his shoulders? Who were those four jigging and dancing? Oh what a night. Had we won the cup?

Overall what can you say? I hope you all saw it on television somehow.

MotM – Jagielka

On the way back, I thought how well we had done but it should be a beginning not an end. It was only the end of a rotten record on that ground. So we still need to strive to keep up our levels and, bearing in mind the possibility of injury and suspensions, will the board allow the manager to add to the squad if he believes it is necessary in January.

Having followed the Blues for many years, for the first time in a long time, I have that feeling I had the last time we hit the heights — and you almost feel scared to mention it just in case we hit the buffers.

Arsenal away next... we can’t — can we? Well, the way we are playing, I am sure we will give it a good go. Knives to a gunfight? Not this Everton.

UP THE BLUES

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Leslie Wee
645 Posted 05/12/2013 at 05:01:29 "There was singing on trains, coaches and cars as we descended on Sky's darlings with loaded Kalashnikovs ready for a proper gunfight. As it turned-out, the homeward journey would be twice as nice and twice as loud."
What an introduction, Ken. Brilliant.

Almost eight hours after the final whistle and I am still scouring the internet, reading every report of the game.

Shout it from the rooftops: like you said, this should be the beginning of something special, not simply the end of something rotten.

Mike Gaynes
648 Posted 05/12/2013 at 05:51:02 The report was as magnificent as the game, Ken. Many thanks.
Never been prouder to be an Evertonian.

Yep well done Chris it could have gone UTDs way but the fact is were losing games when we would have won them in the past.

Just heard a UTD supporter on TalkSport saying this is the worst midfield we have had in 50 years and I would agree.

Looks like Fergie knew what he was doing.

Time we got rid of the Yanks.

5 years or more of midfield neglect, believing there was a fallback of 2 talented youngsters - both left; one still has a temper but is doing well at West Ham United, and the other has just won the 2013 Golden Boy award - below standard purchases, reduce it all and we have Giggs and Fellaini starting. There was a time when the midfield would bust a gut to get into the box.

I take issue with the Januzaj part; his thinking and feet are fast resulting in a high rate of fouls.

Moyes and dithering - RVP injury - 'Robin is okay, he has a chance of playing.' then a few days later 'We’ve been trying to get him back for a few weeks but he is not ready. It’s a sore groin, nothing too serious.'

Cheers,
KidA

Don't fancy your chances against Newcastle with both Rooney and Van Persie out. How long will the supporters put up with Dithering Davie now then :O)

Come on fairs fair Moyles been waiting all his managerial career to see Everton win at Old Trafford.

KidA - Whittingham was the penalty taker but I think it's Campbell now so be aware of that.

And with our negative tactics we aint likely to score many anyway. Our displays on Sky live (Man City , Swansea 2nd half and Man U) are not typical of how we play in most games.

Last nights dire 0-0 with Stoke is typical Cardiff.

Chris Carson,

It'll cost a lot to get rid, but then it may cost more keeping him. I think the Glazers will move if there isn't any light by the start of next December; the midfield problem was there before he joined and Woodward didn't help. The level of owner support during the transfer window next summer will give some idea - likely based on performance from the January window to the end of the season, accounting for Woodward's business. Ferguson had to build a club - youth system up - Moyes only has a midfield to build and times have changed, doubt he'll be given as long. Moyes doesn't help himself - team selection for the game with WBA sticks out - but I think those who want him out will have to wait at least until this time next year.

Dil,

Thanks for the information.

Cheers,
KidA

KidA - If you don't finish in the top four is my bet, don't know where your going to get the players from but Jan could be crucial.