MaxK
- 11 Mar 2005 22:01
The 2005 general election is nearly upon us. Which way will you vote, and you reasons why. Here is a brief list of the potential contestants, please add your own.

More tax!

Less tax!

Dont know!

Death to all infidels!

Who gives a shit?

The great pretender.
porky
- 27 Apr 2005 16:25
- 236 of 337
Done wonders for the economy on the back of the Tories.
50 quarters without a setback, but 20 of those quarters were when the Tories were in power.
Can blame the bank of England now when it all goes pearshape.
He`s not done my pension a lot of good though.
He`s not done my council tax a lot of good.
He`s not done my tax allowance a lot of good.
cavman2
- 27 Apr 2005 18:21
- 237 of 337
Labours Pension is safe because they topped the shortfall up from the Public Purse whilst they just left ours in a MESS.(Tax anyone)
When the Tories where in the Pensions had so much money they gave the Companies a Pension Holiday for a year.
I lived through the previous Labour Government, you know the one that when it fell they said Labour was finished.When they left a mountain of debt with the IMF.Inflation above 25% and interest rates for a saver to savour.
The Tories got rid of debt and the Unions grasping Power and created a fab economy but they had a bit of sleaze so Tony said and were booted out. But I would say their sleaze is nothing to what Labour have been upto, at least we did not have men dying for a Tony Blair WAR.
Well guess what we owe the IMF another Mountain of Debt, our Gold reserves have been flogged at a knockdown price.
Since Labour took power Industrial output has FALLEN and we have the biggest trade deficit ever.
So whats he improved we live in a nanny state everything is governed by red tape and everything that should be neutral has been infiltrated by Labour Men.
If you speak the truth like Dr Kelly you will be FINGERED and your reputation and Job finished.
cavman2
- 27 Apr 2005 19:14
- 238 of 337
Blairs Plane hit by LIGHTNING, IS THIS A MESSAGE FROM THE GODS.
Fred1new
- 27 Apr 2005 21:24
- 239 of 337
Pity it didn't hit him on the ground. I wouldn't have like the crew to suffer his "god's wrath" or "pleasure".
moneyplus
- 28 Apr 2005 00:19
- 240 of 337
Porky --Cavman--AGREE with all you say. I'm in despair when I read people think they've got a strong economy-it's all built on billions of debt and robbery by stealth pensions etc. like a house of cards its beginning to fall apart--whoever wins they've got a hell of a mess to sort out!
cavman2
- 28 Apr 2005 00:35
- 241 of 337
Tories did it before and I hope they can do it again, I have to say i'm amazed that any person who has any financial capability can think that Labour has done any good.
Last time we were even deeper in debt to the IMF to the extent they controlled our economy.
MaxK
- 28 Apr 2005 08:37
- 242 of 337
Good news for the tories.
Safe seat ensures return of Rifkind
Ex-minister to end 7-year absence
James Meek
Thursday April 28, 2005
The Guardian
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/election/story/0,15803,1471788,00.html
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 09:00
- 243 of 337
Bring back Maggie !!!
bristlelad
- 28 Apr 2005 13:07
- 244 of 337
FREDInew day today tmes/telegragh also weekends F.T. OK/YOU HAVE LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG///MAGGIE WHO CAUSE ? THE PENSION/EDUCATION/TRANSPORT/HOUSING PRODLEMS////????WHO ///
MaxK
- 28 Apr 2005 13:15
- 245 of 337
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 15:01
- 246 of 337
I never called Maggie a cat. I have used some others words though!
Interesting thought though. If you put B Liar, Howard and Maggie in a bag, who do you think would get out first?
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 15:03
- 247 of 337
Markx Then stop concentrating on the Sports Supplements. There are other pages.
standber
- 29 Apr 2005 08:23
- 248 of 337
cavman and moneyplus (239 & 240)
And there's me thinking I was alone in seeing the shit we really are in!
When the scales fall from the eyes of the feckless, it will be pitiful to see.
My only wish was for David Davies to be in the driving seat. Can't have everything I suppose.
bristlelad
- 29 Apr 2005 08:44
- 249 of 337
oh oh///BEWARE////THE THREE WISEMEN(PERSONS) THEY COULDNOT SEE THE SHIT WE WERE IN UNDER THOSE NICE HONEST TORRIES what crap/////
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 10:52
- 250 of 337
The tories inherited it AGAIN from a labour gov--remember Jim Callaghan--crisis what crisis??? I bet I'm older and remember more than you Bristle Rubbish piled up in the streets-the dead lying in mortuaries unburied for weeks etc. It took YEARS of pain and struggle for the tories to get it right- only for labour to take on and ruin it all again after cruising along on the tory stability for the first term !! We are at the top of a debt mountain-gov. borrowing and credit card debt with no assets left behind us- Gordon has sold off our gold! Whoever gets in life is not going to stay comfortable perhaps if Labour gets in again the scales will fall from your eyes I'm getting to the age when I'm past caring!!
bristlelad
- 29 Apr 2005 13:40
- 251 of 337
hi moneyplus do you remenber poll tax?doyou remenber black wednesday? do you remenber who/ sold off the state silver to their friends some who were still MPS/////
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:10
- 252 of 337
Yes-poll tax was as they now admit a mistake and could have worked if they had gradually brought it in. also the current lib dem idea of local income tax based on the number of earners in the house sounds almost exactly the same to me just a different name! payment based on the number of people in a house does seem a fairer way of collecting money rather than based on the value of a property with maybe only one person in it--it's just very difficult to know how to bring it in without big trouble!!
Black Wednesday was the fault of the IMF--we should never have joined-b. europeans! Maggie never wanted to go in but Lawson, Major and Clarke shafted her by threatening to resign en masse if she held out against Europe any longer!! Now the tide is turning and the city big wigs are realising what a corrupt selfserving organisation it really is!!
Selling the silver?? hmm--as far as I can remember that was Harold Macmillan as a past PM who didn't approve of something and said it was like selling the family silver but don't know what it refers to. Now we've sold the gold as well!! not much left hey?
This is fun for me--bring it on!! I hope I'm not annoying you just teasing--as I said I'm too old to worry too much. cheers Bristle MP
Fred1new
- 29 Apr 2005 14:27
- 253 of 337
Moneyplus.
Macmillan in context of the Maggies misgovernment did say selling of the "Family Silver" referring to selling off the previously nationalised industries at cut down prices to satisfy its own followers.
That government also abused the exploitation of the North Sea Reserves.
Rather than using these profits to improve the infrastructure of the country of the country that government plundered the finances to reward the rich and party or camp followers by Tax reductions to the already rich.
That period of government was partially responsible for the break down in social responsibility we are now suffering, imbuing the young a lack of moral responsibility and furthering the attitude and action self first and bugger your neighbour as long as you can get away with it. The actions could be illegal or socially dismissive as long as you didnt get exposed.
cavman2
- 29 Apr 2005 14:35
- 254 of 337
Well how come after all the time Foney has had cannot he have made one Jot of difference apart from making everything worse and landing us with another mountain of DEBT.
He promised utopia at the first and at the second said we need a bit more time, now I understand he meant more time to completely ---k it all up.
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:40
- 255 of 337
Fred--I tend to agree with you on that. trouble is the decline in political standards has continued apace and the same with society in general. I once ticked off a student on Paddington station who was aggressively abusing his poor Mother using every word a foul four letter one---he was so shocked he looked at me as if I was from another planet!! I feel as though I am sometimes!
No one is ashamed-no one resigns anymore only self counts! so who do we put in??--goodness knows why they want to get in it's a thankless task.
I think we should have a new party--the honourable party. William Hague, Ann Widdecombe, Charles Kennedy, George Galloway and yes Michael Howard!
Any other suggestions for my new party--oh I forgot Eric and Stockdog!