Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Welcome to all Beta Testers

:-)

Whats that on the floor behind your left leg ????, your wallet...... no doubt empty.

if it's not a turd it must be a small toolkit or something ..... end August 2009 at the start of our Beaujolais jolly

Torries re-invention.........was only a matter of time.........

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2013/04/reinventing-the-poor-law/

cynic
It that your usual 'tourist abroad' outfit? Where are the braces and knotted handkerchief?

From £17,000 to £3 million: The home that turned into a family fortune
A Chelsea home is now worth nearly 200 times as much as when it was bought in 1967
doesn't surprise me .... in 1972 i looked at a house (freehold) in a cul-de-sac off King's Road .... it would have cost me £24,000 ..... as it was the first property i had ever viewed, i took that as the norm

I thought it was Mike Reid's little brother....

he he yep, nice one shortie. Wheres Babs.

Post 23665 - Looks to me like your missing your horse... That outfit never came from a cycle shop did it??

I thought the caption for the pic should have been, "fancy a nice time, dear?"

we take everything with us, so just a pair of lightweight chinos ..... you'ld be amazed how, with some experience, you need very little kit indeed, even for 5 days cycling

The 'not full version of ding dong' is going to be 5 seconds.

5 seconds hardly worth playing. Even some Tory MPs are saying it should be full length version.

Probably become a gay icon.

Right thats it for me, off for a pedicure and then evening meal. Laters.

hope you have FSBC waxing!

Cynic,


Having seen you image you will be glad to know I still don't fancy you.

Don't worry, Hays might.

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You can work out why I don't vote. Basically due to the incompetence of the type of government we have, self centred policies and no long term planning. Motivation short termed greed.

Cynics,

“The Fauklands’s Diaries” Do you read everything you read. You are a man who seems to have strange beliefs.

Hays,

The problems of the many in the unions, during the 50 to 80s, was that they often appeared to believe in political “revolution” and often had vocal, but poor leadership, who rather than concentrating on the needs of the groups they represented, became politically motivated and acted naively.

It was necessary to confront some of their extreme practices. Retrospectively, it is a pity that Barbara Castle’s “In Place of Strife” hadn’t been found more acceptable. (I can’t remember the details of what was offered in the contract.)

Unfortunately, rather than being pragmatic, the present tory elitist government, made up of over grown school boys, PR advertisement boards and conmen, prefer to behave as a “we are up to it” brigade. It is a reactionary, similar to the Thatcher government and offering political solutions more suitable to the tory out of touch governments of the 1922-1939 and the dismal performance of Ramsay Macdonald government.

It is time all sides the unions, and political parties grew up.

Other than the Atlee government and an attempt by Wilson, there has be little long term planning for the country’s economy and wellbeing as a whole.

The Atlee government, swimming in a pool of debt, did attempt to resolve some of to the post war problems, but subsequent governments ducked the realignment of economy and necessary upgrading and mechanism or modernising of the industry. Private industry and nationalised industry often “ducked” the investment problems, although there were attempts to improve of outdate plant. (The UK was competing against newly invested industry and improved working relationships, while some in the UK unions were in a deluded in what the thought to be the possibilities of post war communism.)

There was a background of misdirected, sometimes Luddite unions and often atrocious management. Private management was still being based on the inherited hand down of position.

But, many of the governments (and similarly the present one) were more involved in preserving their own privileges and/or the positions of their own supporters and maintaining themselves in power.

The mines were largely worked out, the “heavy” industries were uneconomical due to “old plant” and “restrictive practices”, the various governments were incompetent and dividing and alienating different groups and polarising opinions.

The various tory governments, other than in the “liberal” McMillan period, seemed, to many, to be supporting and advantaging themselves at the expense of society as a whole, while stoking up future problems of various forms of inequality.

As far as Union membership is concerned, as pointed out, the UK “heavy” industrial base has been killed off by Thatcher. The heavy industries provided the bases for the large unions, and one could expect them to diminish in size. Also, and probably more important, the Health and Safety bodies, and the Courts and Legal actions for unfair dismissal and compensation etc. has lessen the needs for the unions.

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But, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some resurrection of the unions over the next 2-3years.

You are a man who seems to have strange beliefs.
at least that implies that i have made up my own mind which is directly contradictory to what you have always thrown at me

the first part of that (your) para made no sense

The above is mostly nonsense. The leaders of the various Labour governments were hand in glove with the unions most the time and certainly whenever the Conservatives were in power. When the Conservative were in power Labour actively encouraged the unions to cause trouble in an attempt to destabilise the government and they do now. At times when Labour realised that the unions were getting too big for their boots, they would never risk upsetting them as they are their paymasters. If the unions disbanded that would be the end of the Labour party as they have no reliable other funding. There is no appetite for socialism in this country.The only reason that Ed Miliband was elected was the union block vote. The MPs and apparently wanted his brother David. The union only gets the block vote because they fund the party.