goldfinger
- 27 May 2004 10:47
Yes an engineer but lets call it a TECH Engineer. Compressed air technology is its main business, develops industrial air compressors and Gas seals and whats more it provides them for the OIL and GAS industry.
Very close to commercialisation now with its compressors and seals and todays deal ( see below ) should bring that very close.
Charges upfront payments, continuing royalties and development contracts so revenues are not lumpy.
It as a market cap circa off the top of my head 20 million(hope my calculator is now working) and as circa of 5 million cash on the books, very nice.
Some very big names as customers.
Heres todays announcement...........
Corac Group Plc
26 May 2004
For Immediate Release 26 May 2004
Corac Group plc ('Corac')
Joint Industry Programme for Downhole Gas Compression
Corac, the intellectual property and licensing company specialising in
compressor technology, is pleased to announce the signature today of a Joint
Industry Programme ('JIP') for the development of its unique, patented downhole
gas compression technology.
Following the recent successful completion of a Shell funded feasibility study
which evaluated both the technical and economic viability of the technology,
considerable industry interest has been generated, culminating in the addition
of a further four major international oil and gas operators to the project.
The participants of the JIP comprise ConocoPhillips, ENI, Husky Energy,
Repsol-YPF as well as Shell, all of whom have gas assets worldwide which they
believe could benefit from this game changing technology. As well as covering
the development costs for the next phase, the participants will also make
substantial resource available to ensure the final product specification meets
the requirements of the industry.
Corac's downhole gas compression concept involves the coupling together of a
number of axial compressor modules in a single compression train for
installation in the well bore in close proximity to a gas reservoir. In this
location, a modest uplift in pressure results in a very significant increase in
gas production compared with conventional methods using surface compression,
thereby accelerating gas production and cash flow from a producing asset.
Potential production rate enhancement of up to 40% has been demonstrated through
the application of downhole gas compression during a number of gas field case
studies carried out over recent months.
Placing the compressor downhole could also have the effect of being able to
lower the reservoir abandonment pressure which in turn would materially increase
the ultimate recovery from a gas field, thereby further enhancing the economic
benefit from the installation of this novel application of existing technology.
Phase 1 of the JIP is scheduled for completion by the end of 2004, with further
engineering and development work leading to the manufacture and testing of a
prototype downhole in a producing gas well within the following two years.
Commenting on the JIP, Professor Gerry Musgrave, Chairman, said:
'The support from such eminent oil and gas companies vindicates Corac's
development to date of the downhole gas compression project and gives the Group
another product line to bring to the market using its core technologies. It is
the start of a major business development opportunity which is expected to have
significant international ramifications throughout the upstream natural gas
industry.'ENDS.
Although loss making at the moment it shouldnt be very long before this one turns the corner.
Outlook
The Company has a loyal, talented workforce dedicated to the innovation and
exploitation of the technology. Successful trials have demonstrated the
commercial performance in Corac's industrial air compressor and its seals. The
Board is striving to deliver the right manufacturing and sales licences which
will yield the best returns in the long term.
We are confident that a number of deals, which have been subject to recent
intensive negotiation, will be successfully concluded in the near term.
Short to medium term investment, and anyone interested should DYOR and please remember you are responsible for the timing of your buying and selling actions.
cheers GF.
survived87
- 25 Jan 2008 12:35
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notlob .... I'd agree with most (well, perhaps all) of your last post as regards future potential for CRA share price and the timelines of some 'investors' who seem to like posting (on boards other than Moneyam) the L2 data on 'long term' holdings throughout the day... ;-)
notlob
- 25 Jan 2008 12:40
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good point, survived 87.
goldfinger
- 25 Jan 2008 12:53
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Looks to have gone against the grain in these horrid market conditions.
2517GEORGE
- 25 Jan 2008 12:56
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notlob--------In my high risk/reward portfolio I hold the likes of PET, PELE, AMER, MDC, DEMG, & several other jam tomorrow co's which have required an infinite amount of patience, many investors are in the same situation and they seem prepared to wait for them to perform as indeed I do. However in the current volatile market it makes sense for any investor to secure a decent profit, whether it's short term or not. Good luck all
2517
notlob
- 25 Jan 2008 13:04
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2517GEORGE, we must all play it as we see fit. As I said, each to their own.
I am afraid I am not good at the short term thing in any case. Too much hassle as well. I like to pay for my shares and only cash some/all of them in when I feel a suitable value has been reached. Not interested in taking a few off the table just because Mr Market is having a good or bad day.
Good luck with your shares as well.
I must admit, I quite like DEMG, not really jam tomorrow as the sales are increasing in a steady if somewhat slow-ish rate from a low base.
Not sure what , if anything, would accelerate the process, given the NHS's pedestrian rate of process. But it does look like it should come good in the next year or two, on my watch list for investment.
BigTed
- 25 Jan 2008 13:11
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Have stated my stance previously, i have a larger than average holding here, and have been looking to top up with more, gutted i didn't buy at 54p three days ago... but also happy to see these giving the portfolio a much needed boost, i believe this one will go much further upwards in due course, and although any reported set back with dgc will hit these, there is also value in there other turbine technology which appears to be progressing nicely...
survived87
- 25 Jan 2008 18:23
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A nice finish to the week at 58 / 61. Await with interest to see if continues up a bit next week - in which case we could see a new all time high.... (which would be quite nice in present economic climate).
BigTed
- 25 Jan 2008 18:43
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I think if it breaks 60p for good, that will then become support and i can see it going considerably higher, foresight says poss 80p if figures are good next month, mores the pity i never topped up earlier in the week, but may do so and stand by my prediction...
cynic
- 25 Jan 2008 20:02
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you may have plenty of chance to top up next week ..... i have a feeling in my bones that it will not be pretty
BigTed
- 26 Jan 2008 12:37
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thats what i'm expecting too, although this one really does seem to be ignoring the market, ie we are at the same price now as when the ftse was 1000 point higher, thats why i can see it breaking this resistance of 60p with figures due on 19th, if accompanied with a bullish update on progess of DGC.
Just need TAN tostart performing, but having looked at the chart last night, it certainly doesn't look too pretty, however, that is certainly another company i have no problems with topping up...
survived87
- 28 Jan 2008 09:41
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.... and despite Asian indicies finishing decidedly red and European indicies down this norning then CRA is moving on up quite nicely indeed .... ;-)
and with offer now moved up to 65p then I wonder how soon we might see 70p .... perhaps sooner than originally expected.
cynic
- 28 Jan 2008 09:43
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quite so, but no news at all .... hard to believe it is just in anticipation of good figures, due 19th Feb, but perhaps it is ....... average daily volume is only about 250k and already about 170k .... nevertheless, that is scarcely mindblowing
survived87
- 28 Jan 2008 09:46
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given existing market uncertainty expected during 2008 then CRA is a quite nice option to hold.... with the on-going DGC tests then the risk/reward has moved more towards reward .... so perhaps people buying on prospects for it later in year and not just short term gains .... so I supose that's a bit like buying in to producing gold miners as well i.e. under present circumstances if you still have a compulsion to buy shares then invest in stuff that is likely to be higher by H2 rather than the usual stuff which is bouncing around and 2008 general sentiment is poor ;-)
BigTed
- 28 Jan 2008 09:59
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Missed out on top up, for me, already have plenty and will watch to see if my prediction unfolds, i feel it will rise until 19th and then get sold heavily regardless of results/update poss back to 60p level in following month/s, i know i should practise what i preach but would rather adopt wait and see, already nice though that this one alone counteracts most of the losses of other holdings...
notlob
- 28 Jan 2008 10:04
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think there are a couple of things here, and you have to go back into CRA's history to understand it.
There has, for years, been a persistent seller of the stock, in Sofaer Capital. They were not interested in having their stock placed, but liked to dribble it out whenever they felt like it. They had a large stake in CRA which they had bought in the early days + were sitting on a good profit. The effect of this persistent selling was to cap any upside in CRA and depress the valuation.
Sofaer was finally out around 7 or 8 months ago. So then we had the situation that DGC trials were moving forwards to a visible horizon, a stock that was undervalued and the over-hang gone.
Looking back, you can see that CRA has been in a general uptrend since that time.
Looking at other energy saving or energy related technology and IP stocks, and you can see that CRA could have some way to go. eg, Zenergy is valued at around 100m (energy saving on windmill turbines + other areas), PDX 100m+ (bioethanol fuel savings), ROM (romag) 100m+ (photo-voltaic glass) to mention just a few.
Corac's valuation is a little over 50m, with a unique technology that addresses a multi-billion pound market and has three major backers already on-board.
cynic
- 28 Jan 2008 10:23
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Mr Bolton ..... interesting read, but i don't really see the correlation between CRA and the other 3 stocks you mention, for they are in a rather different field, although could all loosely be lumped as "energy" ..... if you like ROM, then PVCS may also appeal
notlob
- 28 Jan 2008 10:36
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dear mr ci-nyc, do you always read backwards?
but I take your point.
The first part of my post was concerning Sofaer, and the situation I described is or was factual, although you can argue over the Sofaer effect.
The second post highlighted three other stocks I quite like that rely on their IP or technology in the field of energy saving.
Comparisons are always difficult, but I think it is valid to compare one IP or technology stock in the energy field with another one in that area. That is what I did.
If you disagree or feel the comparison is not really valid, that is your perrogative.
But I find it useful to compare the market cap against such companies.
Another i could have mentioned is Ceres (CWR). Market cap 200m. They are also really in the area of energy saving or energy efficiency. That is what CRA are doing with their DGC project. CWR expect to ship their first boilers in 2011 or 2012. Corac expect the first live deployment later this year. One has a 200m valuation (CWR) and one has 50m (CRA)
re PVCS, yes, looked at that one, but valuation looked a bit high, did buy some Jetion (similair field) beginning of the year, they have stuck on around 30% since, which is nice.
BigTed
- 28 Jan 2008 10:43
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Surely the relative point in question is what are the PE ratios of these (similar) companies...???
notlob
- 28 Jan 2008 10:52
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big ted
not, it isn't
CRA do not make a profit, neither do Ceres, PDX or Zenergy. Romag make a profit, but they also have a conventional glass business that is profitable alongside the photovoltaic glass business which is still ramping up.
We are looking here at companies that have very interesting IP and technology that could make significant advances in the field of energy saving or energy efficiency.
Most of these companies are at the early revenue stage and profitability is probably still some years away. Clearly, with Ceres, it could be another 5 years +.
So, the only way to effect a comparison is to use such measures as market cap, the addressable market of each company, strength of the technology, backers, cash position, cash burn, time to market etc etc.
A PE ratio here is as much use as a chocolate tea pot!
BigTed
- 28 Jan 2008 10:58
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Maybe, but do any of these companies have considerably higher current sales than that of CORAC? or are you saying they are all valued based on their prospective future earnings? dont get me wrong, i'm right with you on the undervalue of CRA by the market...!