bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Tonyrelaxes
- 23 Feb 2007 16:35
- 23736 of 27111
From the RNS -
Situation before Triggering transaction............ 208,277,748
resulting situation after triggering transaction... 208,313,748
On the RNS this is in columnar form in section 8, A.
pinnacle
- 23 Feb 2007 17:38
- 23738 of 27111
It's hardly crap having Barclays as a shareholder!!
Use your common sense !!
I know it's a rare commodity these days.
Tonyrelaxes
- 23 Feb 2007 20:51
- 23740 of 27111
... even rarer on the dark side, Pinnacle.
Over there they are talking about celebrating wildly this weekend because of Barclays. They are so excited they do not realise Barclays bought less than 500 worth, based on this RNS.
At least there are generally far more enlightened posts here.
I am still curious when/how Barclays acquired their first 208,277,748 as I can't recall seeing them as holding notifiable quantities. My only thought is if they were one of the Institutions putting up 11m in the October Firm Placing, would that have been outside being notifiable?
oblomov
- 23 Feb 2007 21:00
- 23741 of 27111
Tony,
I'm not so sure you're right on the 500 worth - why would that be notifiable?
The RNS says 'Threshold(s) that is/are crossed or reached: 6% to 7% '
i.e. an increase of 1% - Istill see that as 29m shares or 372,000 .
Where are you getting
'Situation before Triggering transaction............ 208,277,748
resulting situation after triggering transaction... 208,313,748'
from? I cant see that in the RNS.
Tonyrelaxes
- 23 Feb 2007 21:30
- 23742 of 27111
Oblo, Hi - long time.
Going to SEOs website through the link just above your post and their link to the RNS -
http://production.investis.com/seo/regnews/rnsitem?id=1172243931nRNSW8010R
About half way down, Para 8. A: gives the word headings and the figures beneath. I put them into straight lines for ease of understanding and comparison.
I don't see it as a 1% increase. Just that the 35,000 moved their total holding over the threshold of one whole number percentage band to the next, albeit only just by quite small amounts. I have not checked their sums against the Total Voting Rights RNS of December but might when back from the pub!
This all arises under the EU Transparency Directive - henve the RNS referring to Form TD-1.
Tonyrelaxes
- 24 Feb 2007 00:15
- 23743 of 27111
Well, after several pints, I have checked the maths.
Total Voting Rights 2,977,646,824
Previously they had 208,277,748 = 6.994709591 % (off the top of my head!)
Presently they have 208,313,748 = 6.995918599 %
So have they really moved from 6% to 7% ?
Maybe they are just proud of their recent investment of about 425 and using a TD-1 to brag about it.
Still, when did their declare their previous holding?
garyble
- 24 Feb 2007 01:30
- 23744 of 27111
Subject to the exemption for certain third country issuers (DTR 5.11.6R), a person must notify the issuer of the percentage of its voting rights if the percentage of voting rights which he holds as shareholder or through his direct or indirect holding of financial instruments falling within DTR 5.1.3R (or a combination of such holdings):
(1) reaches, exceeds or falls below 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%, 9%, 10% and each 1% threshold thereafter up to 100% (or in the case of a non-UK issuer on the basis of thresholds at 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25%, 30%, 50% and 75% as a result of an acquisition or disposal of shares or financial instruments falling within DTR 5.3.1R);or
(2) reaches, exceeds or falls below an applicable threshold in (1) as a result of events changing the breakdown of voting rights and on the basis of information disclosed by the issuer in accordance with DTR 5.6.1R;
...................
Certain voting rights to be disregarded
5.1.3 R Voting rights attaching to the following shares are to be disregarded for the
purposes of determining whether a person has a notification obligation in accordance with the thresholds in DTR 5.1.2 R:
..................
shares held by a credit institution or investment firm provided that: (a) the shares are held within the trading book of the credit institution or investment firm;
(b) the voting rights attached to such shares do not exceed 5%;
and
(c) the credit institution, or as the case may be investment firm, ensures that the voting rights attached to shares in the trading book are not exercised or otherwise used to intervene in the
2005 annual results had Barclayshare Nominees Limited as holding 60,892,255 shares 6.46%.
The threshold was reached on 21st Feb, a day when only 2.75m shares were traded.
Could have been the reason for the ~110m volume at the beginning of Feb.
oblomov
- 24 Feb 2007 08:10
- 23745 of 27111
So, (if we allow for a small error in Tony's maths - sorry Tony!) the move wasn't a full percentage point but just enough to take them up tp 7%.
Presumably the extra 425/500 or whatever was spent as it increased their voting power?
hewittalan6
- 24 Feb 2007 08:23
- 23746 of 27111
Are we missing a fine point? The difference between ownership of the shares and voting rights?
I am useless at understanding anything any government says is for transparancy purposes (bit of a paradox there) but could it be simply that Barclays do not own these shares, they have just aacquired the voting rights by proxy?
Perhaps that would help explain why I cannot recall any RNS ever stating Barclays had any notifiable interest.
Alan
Tonyrelaxes
- 24 Feb 2007 09:39
- 23747 of 27111
Alan.
The RNS/Form lists both Shares and Voting Rights as being the same figures.
I understand Nominee Holdings are outside of the declaration rules. Anyway, Barclayshare Nominees Ltd only had 77million shares (I believe Bas uses them - must be his!) at the Prospectus date.
hewittalan6
- 24 Feb 2007 10:25
- 23748 of 27111
In that case I admit to being baffled.
Never before have I seen something so opaque issued under transparancy directives (other than every peice of FSA tosh that passes my desk).
tweenie
- 24 Feb 2007 12:22
- 23749 of 27111
On the strength of this recent increase by BARCLAYS, I'm now confident it will shortly be followed by another,where they can conclusively demonstrate they know the correct placements of there collective arses and elbows.
greekman
- 25 Feb 2007 18:33
- 23750 of 27111
Cant make the RNS out.
As has been said they did not have a notifiable stake previously which as I understand it is triggered at 3% and yet the increase is stated as 6% to 7%. Cant see how it could be a purchase through nominee either.
Could it be that yet again SEO have initiated another incorrect RNS as they have a habit of doing.
Baffled
Falcothou
- 26 Feb 2007 07:31
- 23751 of 27111
The hatchet falls and another head rolls!
Stanelco PLC
26 February 2007
26th February 2007
Stanelco plc ('Stanelco' or the 'Company')
Appointment of Non-Executive Director and Chairman elect
The Company is pleased to announce the appointment of John Standen as a
Non-Executive Director of Stanelco with immediate effect. In addition, John
will take up the position of Non-Executive Chairman of the Company following the
Company's AGM, which will take place on 27 April 2007. He will succeed Philip
Lovegrove who will step down at the AGM.
John is currently Non-Executive Chairman of Z Group plc and Chapelthorpe plc, as
well as being a Non-Executive Director of Lavendon Group plc and Financial
Objects plc. He is also Chairman of Council at the University of Hull.
John was previously Non-Executive Chairman of Reg Vardy plc until its sale in
2006. He spent his career in corporate finance and was Chief Executive of BZW
Corporate Finance before retiring from Barclays Bank PLC in 1998.
John will be a member of both the Audit and Remuneration Committees.
Commenting on the appointment, Stanelco's CEO, Martin Wagner, said:
'John's knowledge of the City and his wide-ranging commercial experience will
enable him to contribute significantly to the future development and direction
of Stanelco.
At the same time the Board would like to thank Philip Lovegrove for his
significant contribution to the Company.'
There are no further details required to be disclosed under paragraph 9.6.13R of
the Listing Rules or Disclosure Rule 3.1.2R.
- Ends -
For further information please contact:
Press: Financial Dynamics
Jonathon Brill/Caroline Stewart Tel: +44 (0) 20 7831 3113
This in
Oilywag
- 26 Feb 2007 07:31
- 23752 of 27111
'Morning all
Pleased to see the Phillip Lovegrove is leaving and being replaced. I think that, with his constant "we are on the cusp of full commercialisation" utterances he was a little too closely associated with the departed HW.
The new man, John Standen, seems to be very well connected with the city. I shall be attending the AGM in April to get the measure of Mr Standen.
The oily one
bonn1e
- 26 Feb 2007 09:05
- 23753 of 27111
Oilywag
The 21 of April is a Saturday. Are AGM's held on a Saturday?
Hic! oops! Got it wrong fellas. I'm sorry!
Tonyrelaxes
- 26 Feb 2007 09:11
- 23754 of 27111
bonn1e
Read the RNS again. The AGM is on a Friday.
I'll be there, if in the country.