Socrates
- 10 Jan 2004 10:34
Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.
So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.
Scottie
- 05 Mar 2004 20:13
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You're not dreaming jp, I don't know if it will get to 10p, but it will certainly fly!
Scottie
- 05 Mar 2004 20:14
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Love it Duplex!
apple
- 05 Mar 2004 20:34
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Very Pleased am I!
Good luck all.
DUPLEX
- 06 Mar 2004 09:36
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Just looking at the chart, one could easily argue that Planestation is worth more today in terms of assets, potential, and people - better people on the board, better people trying to get onto the board! Relative to what - well lets go back two years - 13p to be exact. I would argue that PTG is worth more than 13p. I am sure the guy who is bidding believes its worth more than 13p. And we all know the assets could be worth as much as, say, 400 million if developed and used properly - and thats just Land etc etc . So is the probability for the price move on Monday upwards or downwards. I don't recall a bid for a company ever resulting in the targets share price going down - ever - therefore upwards. How much - well if you knew a guy was going to make a 10p opening offer - would you sell for anything less? Just think of buying a car - you negotiate - the fist offer is never accepted, therefore you make a lower one than you anticipate as an opening gambit so the other guy beats you up to the 'right' price - he feels happy (I told the manager how wonderful I was getting the higher price) - you feel good cos you've got it at a lower price than maybe you dared for. Everybody feels they are winners.
10 P will be an opening offer. Period. Eventually the play will end up more akin to what the company is really worth. If not then people will carry on buying the shares until the share price is more akin to the company worth! And that means 20p?
Socrates
- 06 Mar 2004 09:39
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DUPLEX
That's a good argument, but if the majority shareholders have all agreed the price in advance, what then?
DUPLEX
- 06 Mar 2004 13:35
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Hi Socrates - a good question. Firstly - Major Shareholders:
This is how I see it ..

Shareholders Amount % Holding
Prudential PLC 315,824,965 14.91
Harlequin Holdings Limited (dup) 159,513,855 7.53%
Also a few banks have some major shareholdings - just below the notifiable interest level - remember when one of them declared - then issued a 'please ignore our last declaration as we did not need to tell you' notice - funny at the time!
So as you can see, they are not the majority - we are - and we will take some convincing. After all, this baby could be worth 400 million a few years down the line. So what price are they going to agree - well the guy has already declared it is worth at least 10p per share! we know it, and the major shareholders know it - and that means 200 million. So get close to 20p and I will think about it....
Scottie
- 06 Mar 2004 15:51
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Two interesting posts today Duplex, thank you.
Socrates
- 06 Mar 2004 16:36
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Any idea how much Oliver Iny controls, either directly or through his trusts?
DUPLEX
- 06 Mar 2004 18:57
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PlaneStation Group PLC
Shareholders
Shares in issue: 2118.7m 1p Ords
Major Shareholders Amount % Holding
Prudential PLC 315,824,965 14.91
Harlequin Holdings Limited (dup) 159,513,855 7.53
Other Directors Amount/ % Holding
Christopher Kenneth Foster 14,746,982 / 0.696
Rona Delves Broughton 2,145,380 / 0.101
Richard Oliver Bernays 1,000,000 / 0.047
John Sebastian Mackay 1,000,000 / 0.047
Geoffrey Lansbury 725,645 / 0.034
Oliver I Iny 260,000 / 0.012
Nicholas Joseph Godfrey 200,000 / 0.009
Source: www.hemscott.net
Roll on 20p
As you can see, Iny holds very few shares directly - surprisngly - so I guess the rest must be via his trust. I do not know if that is Harlequin. I'll have a dig...
DUPLEX
- 06 Mar 2004 18:58
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Todays Financial Times
Oliver Iny of planestation the airport operator formaly wiggins will next week try and stave off a shareholder revolt to oust him as chief executive at an emergency board meeting on monday. Mr Iny is proposing to bring in Steven Davidson the former chief executive of telewest as the new chairman. PTG's largest shareholder PRU is understood to be calling for Mr Iny's removal after Robert ware the former MEPC executive proposed a BREAK UP OF THE COMPANY AT 10P A SHARE which would vaue PTG at about 200 million
He he he good news or what...
Scottie
- 06 Mar 2004 19:06
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I don't think Steven Davidson had a great track record as chief executive of Telewest. Iny could have finally burnt his boats with that choice.
DUPLEX
- 06 Mar 2004 19:09
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Agree. Either way looks like a future where the pro's with the money are about to battle it out - allowing us to await their highest bid.
Socrates
- 07 Mar 2004 13:46
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Question - If he is prepared to pay 200 million, what's it really worth? A lot more than 200 million, as wiggy watchers have been saying for years.
DUPLEX
- 07 Mar 2004 18:23
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Totally agree. 10p is just an opening salvo. It is a rare bid that is accepted immediately. The board would look like they are not acting on the shareholders behalf. The stats on this kind of activity show that the price always moves up from the initial offer. Yum yum...
Scottie
- 07 Mar 2004 20:33
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I expect an early MM mark up, but not too silly - as the MMs make their money on volumes, and then the price could go to 9p over the next few days - a conservative estimate, depending on the newsflow.
Golfclub12
- 08 Mar 2004 08:05
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Morning all
Plenty of interest this morning over 1.5 million all ready traded.
G12
skyhigh
- 08 Mar 2004 08:25
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skyhigh
- 08 Mar 2004 08:25
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Yes, Going great.. Up 1/2p so far today. Just topped up with another 60k shares.. should double this/next week.. :)
Fundamentalist
- 08 Mar 2004 13:51
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There has now been a sell for 3m and a sell for 3.8m in the last hour - anyone enlighten me?
jeffmack
- 08 Mar 2004 15:26
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PUFF PUFF
When was it going to be 10P?