Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

There wont be a tory party after the bloodletting, whichever way it goes.

It won't be a problem. The party will soon unite. The result will be in and nothing will be able to change it. They say a week is long time in politics. By mid July it will be all forgotten. We will be staying in the EU and UKIP will have become pointless.

Politicians will be in the summer recess soon after the referendum and politics will be pretty much dead until the autumn. There is a recess between 15 June and 25 June and then 21 July and 5 September. By the Autumn the wounds will be largely healed.

Ten days after they return, we have the conference recess from 15 September to 10 October. Then there is a recess from 8 November to 14 November.

You can see that there are only a small number of days in Parliament until mid November.

I suspect it will be a big problem.

The Tory party will go the way of Labour and the Dim Libs...fractured beyond repair.


Dave will no doubt reap his reward from the sprouts for a job well done.

They might as well knock down the HoP, it's function will have been rendered useless in the face of law making from Brussels.


No doubt, you Hatstack, will be rejoicing that your best mate Dave will be elevated into the realms of master appeasers.

Cameron WILL be gone by the 24th if the vote is to Leave, he said at the
time of the Scottish referendum that he would'nt resign if the vote was
for independence.

But it was reported afterwards that a Downing st insider had said that he
WOULD have resigned.

As to the Tory party re-uniting, there's been to much bad blood, and its
not over yet.
Even if its a vote to stay then the Leave Torys will get cameron AND
osborne out afterwards.

In the UKIP's case if the vote is to stay, they will carry on in Brussels
getting their cause across, seeing has they're the biggest UK EU party
and who also got nearly 4 million votes in the GE...More then the SNP,
LibDems and the Greens put together..

So haystack to say they're an irrelevance is a misjudge piece of arrogance
on your part.

It will be irrelevant here. In the next GE voters will desert UKIP as it will be a wasted vote and revert to previous loyalties. It has been a protest party with no sensible policies.

I won't be celebrating as I want us to leave the EU. However, I am realistic and know that the majority of the population are scared easily.

I take it you went to the same crystal ball forecasting classes as the
snake oil salesmen cameron and osborne and the other flunkies that predict
catastrophe if we dare vote to LEAVE the eu.

At last years GE, UKIP were the only party that had a fully costed(by an independent financial organisation) Manifesto..

As to UKIP being a wasted vote, then YOU don't realise just how disenfranchised
a lot of voters feel from the establishment parties, so if UKIP policies are still
relevant then UKIP will be around for a while yet..Much to the ire of people
like yourself..

And I'l repeat again....UKIP got more votes then the SNP, LibDems and the Greens put together...

I see Teresa May is doing an independent review into whether Sharia Law is being used to discriminate against women in the UK . Obviously it's going on otherwise what's the point .

Is Dave's legacy going to be the biggest Traitor Britain has ever known , personally I think Yes .

The stay campaign has hit a new low , what a terrible poster going up in many of our cities ,read this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3611698/Charity-probe-racist-Brexit-poster.html

With the immigration numbers in Brexit have the ball.

They need to get a good bounce in the polls before the importance of the economy comes back for the last week before the poll.

If both sides were level on the economy (Brexit lags away behind now) and immigration were to be the main deciding factor, the vote will be In.
The uk is not far enough to the right for any anti migration vote to get anywhere near 50%.

The last thing the Brexit side want is to turn it into a vote on migration. The latest Austrian vote confirms that a vote on migration stirs up all sorts of passions and right wing politics do not win.

Hence Nigel kept from the front line.

A close 53% Vote In is the best outcome.

UKIP is toast in the uk after a vote In

This insult: Commentary by Priti Patel MP

This poster plumbs new depths in scaremongering. Its imagery manages to be both offensive and patronising.
The Asian woman is a caricature from an outdated narrative where ethnic minorities are held to be passive victims.
That certainly does not match the experience of most Asians and diaspora communities in modern Britain.
In fact, they enjoy a spirit of dynamism, an eagerness to embrace the opportunities our diverse society has to offer. That is true of my own family, who came here from East Africa and, through hard work, became successful in the retail business.
Priti Patel: 'This poster plumbs new depths in scaremongering. Its imagery manages to be both offensive and patronising'
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Priti Patel: 'This poster plumbs new depths in scaremongering. Its imagery manages to be both offensive and patronising'
Just as grotesque is the portrayal of the white voter as a knuckle-dragging racist. The subliminal message is that support for Brexit amounts to a form of bigotry.
But that is absurd on so many levels. The cause of British freedom from the Brussels regime embraces all kinds of people, races, creeds and occupations.
My own East-African Asian father is passionately opposed to the EU because he loathes how it has traduced Britain’s democracy and independence.
There are businessmen, retired admirals, Labour MPs and top sports stars who are supporting Brexit, not one of them a screeching xenophobe.
The insulting idea that racism is the driving force behind the Brexit campaign is increasingly voiced by Remain supporters.
Only last week, Pat Glass, the Shadow Europe Minister, described one caller to a radio phone-in as ‘a horrible racist’ for daring to voice an anti-EU sentiment.
But there is nothing remotely prejudiced about wanting Britain to break free from the shackles of Brussels rule and enjoy self-governance, with control over its own taxes, borders, justice, laws and welfare.
For me, as Employment Minister, one of the biggest objections to the EU is that it has been such a spectacular failure. Obsessed with its federalist ideology and hopelessly bureaucratic, it has produced economic paralysis across the Continent.
Meanwhile, Brussels has produced no effective response to the mounting immigration crisis, fuelled by the EU’s obsession with open borders and free movement.
Only yesterday, figures were released that show how our population is due to grow by four million over the next eight years.
It is not racist to be concerned about the unsustainable pressures on our civic infrastructure or the potential loss of social cohesion brought about by this.
The EU is the real force for extremism in Europe, because through its calamitous policies on migration and the single currency, it is creating ever greater political disillusion. That, in turn, is feeding the growth of Far-Right movements.
European federalism is a recipe for more despair. On the other hand, we can seize the chance of a far brighter and more prosperous future by regaining our independence.

That's why Cameron is a Traitor jimmy .

I thought it was IDS.





Perhaps, what the Brexiters want!

Obsessed Freda you just can't see that the EU is the problem .

VIC British politics is at a new low ,i never thought we would see worse than Blair but Cameron is up there for me ,i have lost all faith in any political system here.

What?

Another fallen idol or con artist?

Fred why don't you do us all a favour and go and play on the M6 this morning ,your nothing but a liar , full of shit .

I don't think he cares ,Dave , he's going hell for leather every day for remain , he's like a programmed automaton . It's him he's thinking about , just like a lot of remainers self, self , self .

That poster is disgusting and racist ,but now it's racist against white people.

I thought only white people were racist , you sure .