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Shares Magazine (DULL)     

StonyB - 09 Oct 2003 10:16

Has anyone seen the revamped Shares magazine? Ross Greenwood, the original editor, had the energy to build the magazine up and knock it into a workable format, and Rodney Hobson, the recent editor had the sense to progress through evolution, not revolution. Now we have a new editor, Jeremy Lacey, who impressed no-one last week in his first editorial by describing how inept he'd been in his share-buying, surviving largely through luck. He's now (assuming he's had something to do with the changes) redesigned everything seemingly by throwing everything up in the air and picking the parts up in the random order in which they fell. It now looks drab and lacklustre - the component parts are still there but in an order which makes no sense at all and which becomes a difficult read. Share tables and stats, which naturally, in my view, should fall at the end of the magazine, for ready access, are now scattered throughout. The natural progression, from headline short-pieces (news and tips) at the start of the magazine, through longer features, advertorial, and finally company reports and stats, has been lost.

I buy Investors' Chronicle for its sober emphasis on fundamentals, and Shares Magazine for its tabloidy freshness and emphasis on TA, with plenty of graphs and graphics. There may be some merits in extending the small-cap coverage, with the longer textual reports (although I preferred it as it was) but the loss of graphs make them look like a poor version of IC. It's the visual look and quick-read qualities that have suffered. It now looks dull and disorganised.

I'd recently been thinking of cancelling Investor's Chronicle in favour of Shares, but now I'm beginning to think I had it the wrong way around.

Thoughts anyone?

McPaulass - 19 Oct 2003 20:55 - 24 of 57

What happened to the ozzy he was brilliant.We also have David Jones instead of David Linton on charts.I also thought i was going to get a good read this week when i felt the thickness,no just an extra 12 pages of the shares awards zzzzzz.

zzaxx99 - 19 Oct 2003 21:05 - 25 of 57

-- Andy,

I've noticed that the number of places stocking Shares dried up a year or so ago - surprised to see it in Tesco at the weekend - hasn't been in there for ages - they may have "sold" it to the shops on the basis of a relaunch?

Dil - 20 Oct 2003 00:19 - 26 of 57

I hope Lmpy didn't say sell Nord Anglia.

:-)

Where is he these days , could do with his support here.

Andy - 20 Oct 2003 09:30 - 27 of 57

zzaxx99,

Yes I noticed that most of the old stockists no longer sell it, but I have yet to see a copy in any of thr three shops I would normally buy it in.

I'm just going down to the shop near my office, they normally stock it.

Cheers,

Andy.

Exotoxin - 20 Oct 2003 14:13 - 28 of 57

They have it for wrapping fish & chips here!

Andy - 20 Oct 2003 15:48 - 29 of 57

Exo,

LOL!

The newsagent on our business park had a copy, so will check if it's improved tonight!

overgrowth - 20 Oct 2003 23:36 - 30 of 57

I agree that the new format is crap, and that more care should be taken over the presentation of data. However, Shares magazine is the only investment magazine that I have found which can keep me awake.

Not being a fan of "funnymentals", I find the IC as dull as dishwater.

With the recent interest in spread betting and on-line trading attracting more and more small punters to the market, I'm surprised that other magazines (e.g. the IC) haven't made themselves more attractive and readable in format.

chapman123 - 22 Oct 2003 16:46 - 31 of 57

their big tip last week was ZOO clearly enought said didnt see it tipped anywhere else good record on their tips much better than IC IMHO

zzaxx99 - 22 Oct 2003 17:35 - 32 of 57

IC are justly infamous for the diabolical performance of their tips. As is Dr Death (Watson-Mitchell) - is he still tipping for Shares?

brianboru - 22 Oct 2003 23:58 - 33 of 57

If shares mag owns this site I'd suggest their journos start contributing to the BB and covering the stocks that most private investors own. On todays BB hardly any stock talked about appeared in the FTSE350.

overgrowth - 23 Oct 2003 00:11 - 34 of 57

This BB's great for penny share speculators though, lots of ideas and none of the usual ramp and deramp merchants.

chapman123 - 23 Oct 2003 11:01 - 35 of 57

Fortune Oil tipped today any views ? up 10% so far a big volume so
they have following

julia - 24 Oct 2003 15:25 - 36 of 57

brianboru - 26 Oct 2003 23:47 - 37 of 57

Looked at their 'tips' this week and it seems they specialise in penny shares whereas their rival, The IC, usually covers 'proper' shares. I think that if they are going down the "become a millionaire by investing 30 in a penny share" route they have a duty to inform potential punters that historically penny shares have been a terrible investment for private investors. Nor do I trust journo's who tip such shares. Not that Shares mags journos are corrupt I'm sure(ish) but the opportunity for devious dealing is certainly there.

StonyB - 01 Nov 2003 16:14 - 38 of 57

brianboru - Shares doesn't fall into the penny share tipsheet category that you're alluding to, by any stretch of the imagination. True, it has good regular coverage of small companies but, like IC, covers the whole gamut of companies, from large to small.

My only gripe, which is why I started this thread, was about the dreadful reorganisation of the magazine from something which made sense to one which does not. The more they try to emulate IC, the more they'll lose the individuality that makes the magazine worth buying, in my view. And can anyone tell me what the new page heading 'Mogul' is supposed to mean?

(No, nothing to do with the Sixties TV series starring Ray Barrett, later renamed 'The Troubleshooters', which was based in an oil company called Mogul. Mind you, a troubleshooter is perhaps what Shares needs.)

Still waiting for this week's issue, which I guess must be languishing in a sorting office somewhere, assuming Shares hasn't folded.

Apologies to Shares journos, by the way, who I know must struggle to get anything out at all. A thankless task.

jnknill - 03 Nov 2003 12:24 - 39 of 57

Recently made my worst ever Investment. Soon after joining MoneyAm, I took up the "Shares Magazine" offer(1 Years subscription @99 + Premier level free on MoneyAm). I think, having seen the "RUBBISH" of content,layout etc., of recent "Shares" output, that I would have been wiser to opt for a higher level on MA. Don,t know why the magazine has strayed from the previous format but I hope that my copy for this and future weeks is "RESTING IN A SEALED-UP MAIL BOX" Whilst they persist with the"new look", this is one ex-reader who has been "conned". Are they trying to cover-up a problem????

Andy - 03 Nov 2003 13:44 - 40 of 57

Stonyb/jnknill,

I have to agree they've ruined the format.

I strongly suggest they change it back ASAP!

I hope someone relays our opinions to the powers that be before readership drops to a new low, it's hard to buy in my area now, outside the WH Smith type town centre shops.

I agree the journo's do well, and I also agree that they should keep their own style, and not copy IC, which I personally find a bit dry.

apple - 03 Nov 2003 14:51 - 41 of 57

I wonder if anyone who works for MoneyAM/Shares Mag has been told about or has noticed this thread.

Will they just ignore it anyway?

washlander - 03 Nov 2003 16:46 - 42 of 57

Probably and continue to plague us with popups, despite it being so well known as a turn off for visitors.

superrod - 03 Nov 2003 22:07 - 43 of 57

get popup stopper from http://www.panicware.com
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