Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Come on Hays justify 1 million plus kids unemployed.

GF.

I agree with you take on Thatcher and her legacy to the country.

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Hays.

"The ultra left such as the SWP and the Marxists hate Thatcher as she prevented a socialist revolution. When she came in the UK had more nationalised businesses that any non communist country and the militant unions were attempting to override the government."

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You have been fed with and swallowed a load of " ".

When Thatcher came into "power" the likelihood of social revolutions was miniscule. The general public didn't want it, and only a few extreme left wingers thought it possible.

"Scargilism" did not wash with the majority of workers, although there was sympathy for the miners during the strikes. But sympathy does not mean, or lead to a revolution. Also, after experience of the previous "strikes" the police had organised and prepared themselves for future problems.

The flying pickets, alienated the mass of the population and was relatively easily contained.

The most dangerous time was immediately after WW2, when many were being discharged from the forces. Without nationalisation of subsidising of major industry under the Attlee government there would have been mass unemployment, which may have lit the fuse to violence and revolution. Doubtful, but some left wingers hope that it might occur.

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Thatcher, bought her second term in office at the expense on the blood of British and Argentine forces 1982 and when re-elected with 42% of the votes, i.e. a almost 60% against her.

She then squandered the revenue from the selling off cheaply public owned industry and North Sea oil.

She was acclaimed by the tories and her backers, but was kicked out by her own party leaving a split tory party and a political mess and outdated infrastructure for John Major to deal with as the results of a boom and bust economy.

She will be seen by history as vain failure of a woman and a prime minister who spent too much time on the tory throne.

SPOT ON FRED.......... excelent summing up.

The last sentence particularly of that post is utter rubbish Fred.

How to build a bike: The revival of a British craft

There is a six-month waiting list for Peter Bird's made-to-measure bicycles, which start at about £3,500.

Sales of bikes in the UK are up. But not everyone is content with buying a mass-produced bicycle. Some are looking for something different, which is helping the revival of a traditional British craft.

Peter Bird likens himself to a tailor. At his workshop at Ironbridge Gorge in Shropshire he takes his clients' inside-leg measurements and finds out their exact needs.

LOL inside leg measurements........."what side do you dress on sir"

He's getting no where near my inside leg for tuppence.. let alone £3,500 quid -):

You a biker Stan?.

A bit personnal!

We say cyclist GF -):

Bikes? Oh yes, they are those things that go whizzing along the pavements injuring pedestrians and jump traffic lights on the rare occasions that they are on the road.

Ehhhhh whats wrong with being a biker?. Got 2 mates who are hells angels........ salt of the earth...... lovely guys.

ahhhhhhhhh my fault Stan.

Need a bit of fresh air.

Been fishing since 6.15 this morning. Caught nowt aswel.

Think ill go out and feed the swans and ducks.

More rhyming slang?

Haystack - post 24061 - it's not bikes that do that, it's speeding police cars.

Take a rod with you and put a bit of bread on the line.

Nice supper, but not much on either of them.

8-)

New somebody many years ago who always took a poachers gun with him when he went fishing.

LOL.......... its just nice Fred to get out on this rotten winter.

Looks like Osbourne wont stay the distance.

Hes a chump anyway.

Not even an economist....... like a odd job man telling a plumber how to do a job.

Police cars need to jump lights. Idiots on bikes don't. Good to see that the police do stop bike riders who jump lights in central London and charge them.

I don't think many people get killed by bikes, Haystack, but the stats. on how many get killed by speeding police cars must be pretty high.