for more information about stanelco click on the links.

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http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

thats the spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit late comin' back in. The fence is a bit longer Than I remembered from last time. Perhaps EK would like to do something useful for once and come and help me with treating the other side. Then at least he could write in his diary (all egotists have a diary)that today he had done something constructive for a change.

Long term investors have no interest in his manipulations only in the true worth and future prospects of a company.

Lets be absolutely honest he earns his crust by successfully manipulating share prices not like most of the rest of us who try to identify a value and a future which looks positive.

If only everyone could ignore him he would have no influence ... what a better place the world would be.

Cheers

B2B

First, apologies to Stan for getting his surname as Alco and to Elco for getting his Christian name as Sten! Well done to 2brain (still read two Heads to my grandson!), bos, etc for buying in today: the best response to shorters is buy, buy, buy!

Have written a comment on the t1ps.com board that I hope gets to EK. I have requested that he research the ASDA deal and the Evolution analysis and then 'have the nose' to change his recommedation to LONG. If so, I will reward him with a 20 bottle of red with really 'good nose'! What did our master say: 'overcome evil with good'!

I would say from the trades today that he will get no further than with ASOS last year. The reason for the fall today I reckon is shorts that could approach 500K; however, persistant buying, though not large quantities, brough overall trading more or less back to an even keel.

It has affected my converging triangle though. It now looks very like a "bull flag" which has the same effect though the timing is less predictable for the break out. Monday should be interesting!

Eric

Eric and others, thanks for your valued input on this board. i have read the posts here and have enjoyed some interesting discussions. it is good to see a board that does not have much of the "nastiness" that can occur elsewhere! Having sat on the side of these discussions i would like to add my two penneth re todays business. I would also like to state that i have a very sizeable (for me)long position which i intend holding for 18 months +, unless fundamentals change.

Eric,I have just left the "T1ps" board and there is no sign of your post! would you mind double checking to see if you need to re-post it please, Thank you. once i have read your post i intend to add my own, unless you have covered all of the points, which would not surprise me.

I am surprised that EK should choose to "short" SEO after the ASDA RNS. it is possible that before this RNS the price may have risen too quickly and with no
"deals" in the bag it was a stock that would have been on the shorters screens, however i feel that the case for shorting went with the ASDA deal,I would have also thought that the reduction in the SP of this week has surely taken out much of the downside movement that shorters would hope to profit from.

I would like to see an "Out of Court settlement" with BPRG that was beneficial to both companies as long as it did not send out signals that SEO would not defend their patents. I feel it would be better for all concerned to have the CC out of the way as it is certainly an uncertainty for us all at the moment even if not such a major issue as it was a few months ago.

The comment in the ASDA RNS from the ASDA technical manager, where he states that they are seeing new opportunities to involve SEO every time they go to a store or factory, and that he feels that the SEO product may well be the most exciting development in packaging for years (I do not have the RNS in front of me but i am pretty sure the jist of what I have just said is accurate if not word perfect). These comments from a manager within a company who are, at the end of the day, purchasing the equipment is quite an endorsement for SEO and its future earnings potential. When we stand back and consider the potential from ASDA's relationship with Wal-Mart the potential for SEO long term looks extremely promising. It would be very interesting to know what communication has passed between ASDA and Wal-Mart re this project and whether Wal-Mart will use the technology in a similar deal to ASDA. Does anyone know if the exclusivity covers America?

If EK is successful with his short, we can be fairly confident that any SP reduction should be fairly short lived. I do hope that he is not successful, i see the shorting of a company with real potential as a very negative and destructive way to make money. Obviously we are all out to make money at the end of the day, at least being long, i feel as though i am part of building something that does not only improve my wealth but also creates employment,security and wealth for others or am i just being idealistic!

Good luck to everyone, long or short.

Nick

Nick

A really good post; good to have you on the editorial team. Do go ahead with a post on tips; I found an existing thread and it may be better to create a new entry. The ASDA deal covers UK and Ireland. There is an agent making active headway in the US so a parallel exclusivity deal with Walmart may not be on the cards - others, such as andysmith might give a more-informed answer.

In my view, there is nothing intrinsically wron g in shorting a share, just as there is nothing wrong in trading it; in contrast to investing in the company for a while. You are clearly speaking as an investor not a trader. I do take issue with an organised attack on a share which I see is what happens with evil and his followers. If I decide to short a share (not that I have done so) following a technical analysis which tells me it is overvalued, that is fair game, but these attacks are not so much on the share price but on the myriads of punters who do their homework and make sensible judgements. Forewarned though is forearmed. SEO volume has been averaging over 2 million shares a day, with the price rising with a prepondernec of buyers. A shorting team needs to sell, I would thing, at least 500K shares a day to make any difference and probaly 1 million to make themselves some money. I can't see a significant fall because there must be buyers at the support level (as shown today) I believe we only need to have the Evolution forecasts in general view to take the price significantly higher and a bloodied nose for some.

Eric

Thanks Eric,

i have a very busy couple of days coming up but i do intend putting a post on the t1ps board before monday.

Good night

Nick

I was out yesterday and came home to find sp fall but do I give a damn? No I don't, you know I'm overweight (in SEO that is!!) and 4% falls affect my portfolio total significantly but so what. Inter-day trading of this will be nothing compared to where the sp is going. This EK bloke seems to be a twat (albeit a rich one) but if his actions give us better buying opportunities great, we will beat him in the long-run. Good product fundamentals backed by one of the worlds leading retailers will do more for SEO than EK can stop.

Eric, Please to see you are reading "Traders" Some issues are quite informative, I am running a couple of systems on paper but have not yet commited myself in hard cash, If any more doublers come I will put them in the post. Have you sent any on to johngtudor?? SD

afternoon all. welcome nick, good to see you in from the shadows. good post , too. simple answer to it all , really. if we all buy more, price will move up. ek takes a kick in the nads. job done!!!!!

Nickrichards good post nice to read some one new on this board instead of all the old cronies, me included keep posting, no you are not being idealistic I also want to creates employment, security and wealth for others by investing in a (Green Share) you sound a bit like me I would never invest in a tobacco stock for instance, it is hard to draw the line some times though I do have oil stocks we cant be good all of the time.

Can some one give me and others the run down on EK I know I said good riddance to EK yesterday but up until a couple of months ago I had never heard of him and I have been investing for about 18 years, is EK a he or she does EK exists his he a myth or legend is he a broker, how do we know what he is doing he has never emailed me. If he did affect the sp on Friday (downward) then I agree with andy that can only be a good thing some of us topped up and will do so in the future if it goes any lower including me, again I am the same as andy quite heavy in seo although not overweight, when the sp lowers it has an impact on my portfolio but in the long run I know it will come good.

While Im being a bit thick today can some one tell me what all the different trades are VW,AT, N, UT, etc etc.

EK does exist Simon Caldwell is his name, dont know too much more apart from he causes all sorts of grief for investors but revenue for his fellow followers...

aldwick , why have you posted a pic of bernie winters??? and where's snorbitz?

Bosley,

After extensive research, I can now confirm that Aldwickk's Bernie Winters look-alike pic is in fact Monsieur Knievil.

can someone educate me as to what t1ps is and where can i see it?
thanks, and some very informative comments on this stock, hope we all make a few quid!

Hello Keith.

t1ps.com is a subscription based website that is run by Tom Winnifrith, there are a number of sister sites (a reasonable / fair subscription is necessary for each site) that are specific to certain area's ie TA, Charting ETC. I have been a member since Tom set the site up and have more than covered any subscriptions paid. I am very pleased with the site and would suggest you check it out.

I must point out that the site has supported me most generously on a number of projects re my work, however my recomendation is based purely on the quality of the site and my belief that Tom is an honorable man who gives the best information available to him at the time of printing

Regards

Nick

aldwickk
Thats not a picture of Eric is it thats how I have always imagined him.
Thanks any way he doesn't look that evil.

Nick - some good posts re shorting, employment and company prospects. Personally, I would ban cfds, spread bets, shorting and hedge funds. And of course ban mms and use SETS. Use your own money. Yes I am an old-fashioned git.

Having said that, if it is true about EKs position here, I can understand why given SEOs lack of turnover and profit. Presumably there are a large number of RIs in this stock who would be easy to make nervous.


However, remember that EK has had spectacular failures. I almost feel like getting in first thing Monday on principle!


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