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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 25 Jun 2013 02:42 - 242 of 1034

YikYak - people generally 99% live in denial.

Over the years in the other place I have, along the way (as I come accross them) slapped peer reviewed published articles, cover ups, suppression of cancer cures, interviews from billionares that socialise with the elites (stating they want 2/3rds the "useless eaters off the planet, and even the one a couple of weeks back re GMO's

- the gov't grant funded scientist - who came up with the results that
- an "already on the market GMO"
- in feeding studies - caused ....death, tumours, brain cancers, miscarriages, sterility, deformed offspring etc etc
- it had been peer reviewed and was to be - published in "The Lancet"
- The creme de la creme ....Royal Society...threatened the Lancet Editor - it would not be good for his future carreer if - it was published
- Scientist immediatelt sacked from his post of...several decades standing
- Threatened with mega lawsuits - and a gaging order placed on him
- even the Prime Ministers office was involved in the suppression

Conclusion - not only "suppression" - but obviously TPTB (Inc our own gov't)
- want.....us unknowingly.....exposed to the above....nasties.

Usually goes, overs mosts heads, or a heavy dose of denial, or just too busy collecting screen based 1's and Zero's to bother with ....as you say...how it all works.
Each to their own and.... whatever gets them thro' their (shortened lives) day.

It was either higher up on here or the ...over 'ere... gold - I asked on just pure common sense.....
- the elite families that ran the British Empire...that invaded countries, raped their assets, enslaved their population, ran the plantations
- traded slaves like they would sacks of tea
- plus hooked the far east, including...the whole of China ...onto their opium that they peddled and intentionally, knowingly,.. destroyed lives
(and that was all... into the pockets of ..just ONE - unopposed drugs cartel.... of dynasty families)

- I then asked - do you think the few elite families that ran that whole shebang and made the equivalent of untold....trillions at todays figures
- just had a change of heart realised the - error of their ways in treating the sheeple as just tradable commodities....and all joined Greepeace and friends of the earth and took up gardening ??

Those families and all that wealth - still runs the world today...and their eugenic philiosophies.....haven't changed.

I think perhaps, yourself
- Squirrel
- Snurkle
etc

Might at least possibly read this
- further .... insights of "the grand plan"
(Without,.. as over there, - cough "sock drawer" - shooting the messenger :o)

http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/NWO%20Plans%20Exposed%20By%20Insider%20In%201969.pdf

The recollections recorded in the late 80's of a Doctor - recounting ....what was told to him - way way back in the late 60's
...as to the aims and methods of where TPTB wanted to get to.....by the year 2000
- the information being given by a high order....in TPTB loop ....senior doctor/consultant.
(Yep - they plan...that far ahead....30yrs plus)

There's even mention of the supressed Cancer Cures known back then, being used as ...one of... many tools to,
- cull the population.

Short concise and, to the point read (Over the last 30/40yrs - how are they doing on progress - Tick 'em off).

It also even substantiates..... Kevin Trudeau's assertion - of how the elite ....decide the 2/3rd they want off the planet
In paraphrase
- It's the 2/3rds that... can't be arsed... to ask questions and read.

(e.g - about vaccines, pharma, GMO, presevatives, food additives, residues, fluoride, mercury fillings etc etc...and the rest of the etc's).

As U.S Pres Woodrow Wilson quoted (to the effect) - there is a force...beyond goverments, so great & powerful.... that mighty men...dare not speak it's name.

And as Edgar J Hoover said
- the American mind is hampered....by the ability to grasp a conspiracy ...so large, that.....etc.
(& if anyone knew how deep the rabbit hole went...it would have been Hoover)

Anyway 3am approaces - time for 3/4 hors sleep...busy day tomorrow.

Let me know your thoughts on...their above targeted progress.

(NB it's a transcipt ..of his recorded account - so an easier speed read, than having to listen)

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 05:58 - 243 of 1034

Omce36, nothing surprises me anymore. Every time we're staring at a supposedly dead for the bankers, they find another way of dodging the final bullet...... obviously at a higher and higher cost of society.

Gaz, thank you for posting the bits and pieces. Most of what you have posted isn't really a conspiracy theory anymore, it has become a conspiracy fact that not many people actually know about or simply put, don't want to accept and admit that it exists.........
but it does.

I hope you have a good day being busy. It was a stunning sun rise here this morning, accompanied by a stunning near full moon on the opposite side. Doggies went bonkers for 45 mins so every one happy here :-)

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 06:59 - 244 of 1034

Thanks Gaz - excellent content. Omce - the people are constantly duped but then as Gaz says if they can't be bothered to read, to learn & prefer an apathetic shortened life then perhaps they are the reason we find ourselves swimming in treacle. Knowledge is Power. The question is - do we share it & if we do is anyone listening.

I've moved constantly throughout my life, making changes, keeping an open mind & staying flexible - it has and still is giving me amazing insight. I don't like rudeness anywhere and yet the west is full of arrogant individuals who think they have a god given right to spout how great they are.

Gratitude, humility & humbleness are so very often found in some of the wealthiest & intellectually intelligent just as they are found in some of the most poverty stricken and uneducated. It's a personality phenomenon.

Empathy for our fellow human is something to be encouraged. Instead we have a glut of "I'm alright Jacks".

A large percentage of the eastern population work for the family as a whole unit.

Not so very long ago we did. Grand-parents lived with their kids until they past away. Now we treat them worse than animals farming them off to private care homes to be ignored, abused & die alone.

We need to observe alot more & care alot more & then we take back the greatness we once were.

My nephews will learn that way & there'll be no rewards unless they are decent humans & get decent grades at school. Manners, respect for elders too.

WE take control of our own destiny.

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 07:04 - 245 of 1034

Snurks - we had an amazing view of the Super Moon here.

112degrees - :-0

gazkaz - 25 Jun 2013 09:09 - 246 of 1034

Morning Snurkle & Squirrell - yes it's a wonderful glorious start to the day.
- Been out in the garden and greenhouse since 7.00
- quick toast and coffee before son arrives
- the joys of swapping his power steering pump on his car
- swine of a job

( Haynes manual rate jobs with a rating of 1 to 5 spanners...as to degrees of difficulty
- it rates a 5
- if ever you read "a degree of manual dexterity required" in the manual - it means you need to be a trainee gynocologist, double jointed...and hands the size of a 5yr old.
- and if it says - "patience & several attempts" ....it usually means
- it's helpful to have at least 6 fingers & two thumbs on each hand (plus a third hand), the stength of garth, coupled with the delicacy and ...of a micro brain surgeon
- having done one, once before.....all the above (& more) applies.

Mind you at mid 20's - my son, still ascribes to the view
- "A,M" should not exist....and the first words a human being should ever say to another human being is..."good afternoon"
- & therefore his 9am start... will probably be nearer 10 :0)
(So I might get chance to cool off in the shade ...of a quick scoot around...the web for an hour lol).

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 12:54 - 247 of 1034

Today's Ed Steer's was a bit dull, but this bit absolutely stood out a mile

"It was another very decent day at the store, but it was wall-to-wall silver sales. We didn't sell an ounce of gold to anyone...either over the counter, or on an order-in basis."

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 13:42 - 248 of 1034

Sony want silver - big time.

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 13:43 - 249 of 1034

Gaz - you're too kind. Hope he makes you a cup of tea!

gazkaz - 25 Jun 2013 14:08 - 250 of 1034

5 Coffees and counting :o)
(I run on the stuff - very bad for the health)
- but now a rare cold beer in the back garden, and the sunshine for half an hour. :o)
- a nice just shorts and trainers day over here
(or as they no doubt call it over your way.. only..mildy arctic)

- just deciding whether - to make a day of it - and do the cam/timing belt and fuel inection belt too, whilst we're in there.
- (before we put it all back together again)
Hopefully we don't get the - Humpty Dumpty..experience - on the putting back together again part :o)

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 15:01 - 251 of 1034

Nah - have another beer.

Tomorrow is another day!

118 degrees here - Tiger time we think.

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 15:11 - 252 of 1034

Agree with Squirrel gaz.
You're over ruled....... have another beer.
Tomorrow might never happen :-)

Just got back from my afternoon walk. Made our way to Scammonden which is a reservoir.
Could have sat out all afternoon and watch them swim and play. However, house work to do and finish before 'the boss' comes home. I'll have a cold one when I finish and think of you guys... cheers!

btw guys, some good articles and relays. Thanks

gazkaz - 25 Jun 2013 16:41 - 253 of 1034

Wish I had read your posts - before we had the beer and did the cam belt and pump belt - but it was a 50/50 call - & think your advice - would have swung it on the more beer & coffee...s.
Still all done and successful outcome - saved about a grands worth of garage labour too :o) - that's the one & only good part (you can really believe me on that one).

I'm sure at 118 degrees Squirell's needs may have exceeded mine (tho' only marginally),

but Snurkle,
- & I don't know if squirrel would have gone in - but, that reservoir would have been... too damn swim tempting for me to avoid going in today.
I bet it was a little bit of heaven there today.
(a cold shower after getting cleaned up - just doesn't measure up - to a summers day swim in an ice cool resevoir)

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 17:43 - 254 of 1034

Good to hear you've got it all finished Gaz. And with time to spare for a nice cold one.
You are right re tempting to swim myself as I was in until my shorts paddling along with the dogs. :-)

Back to business. I've got a few good links for you

Here's the latest bill Holter

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/the-button-has-been-pushed-ready-or-not


Alert for the second half of 2013 – Global systemic crisis II: second devastating explosion/social outburst on a worldwide scale

http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-76-is-available-Alert-for-the-second-half-of-2013-Global-systemic-crisis-II-second-devastating-explosion-social_a14266.html


Jim Rogers: I Bought More Gold Today…Bull Market Far From Over
This is the full Ed Steer's daily update with link (I usually don't get that)

http://www.caseyresearch.com/gsd/edition/jim-rogers-i-bought-more-gold-today...bull-market-far-from-over

omce36 - 25 Jun 2013 17:53 - 255 of 1034

Arian Silver stops milling at third-party site...guess it was inevitable.

http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/58361/arian-silver-stops-milling-at-third-party-site-58361.html

Doesn't bode well. With no revenues coming in, how are they going to cover expenses let alone the cost of this new mill they;re talking about. Any chan ce there will be BOD salary cuts?

Expect a highly dilutive placing, on top of the ongoing Seda drawdown for working cap expenses in my opinion.

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 19:07 - 256 of 1034

Err omce - AGQ just made a sound decision - let me post the RNS as your post isn't exactly accurate. Theres a history to all this. I don't like misleading nformation as the best bits you've chosen to leave out - now why do that?

FOR: ARIAN SILVER CORPORATION

TSX VENTURE, AIM SYMBOL: AGQ
FRANKFURT SYMBOL: I3A

June 25, 2013

Operations Update

LONDON, ENGLAND--(Marketwired - June 25, 2013) - Arian Silver Corporation ("Arian" or the "Company") (TSX
VENTURE:AGQ)(AIM:AGQ)(FRANKFURT:I3A), a silver exploration, development and production company with a focus on
projects in the Zacatecas silver belt of Mexico, announces today it has ceased toll milling at the third-party-
owned Juan Reyes toll mill by mutual consent with the mill-owner.

Jim Williams, Chief Executive Officer of Arian, commented today, "In the context of current metal prices, we
are preserving value by halting milling operations and, with the knowledge obtained from the toll milling
operations, positioning the Company to resume production with its own mill at a significantly reduced cost
base.

Having successfully terminated the Juan Reyes toll mill contract without penalty, we are focussed on concluding
the financing package to facilitate the acquisition of the second-hand custom mill and funding mine development
to increase capacity up to 1,500 tonnes per day.

The second-hand custom mill is expected to deliver cost savings of some 75% compared to previous toll milling
operations, which, alongside the additional revenue from lead and zinc credits, would produce considerable
profits even at today's silver price."

The exclusive option to acquire the second-hand custom mill, as first reported in March, has been extended at
no cost, until mid-August.

Discussions relating to the financing package continue to advance and an update will be provided at the
appropriate time.

The foregoing release contains forward-looking statements that can be identified by terminology such as "will,"
"would," "expected," "potential," "would be," or similar expressions. Such forward-looking statements reflect
the current views of management regarding future events, and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and
other factors that may cause the outcome of events to be materially different from management's current
expectations. There can be no guarantee of the outcome of either the fundraising or the due diligence
programmes. Forecast estimated operating costs are taken from the Company's Technical Report Update dated 23
May 2013. Metal prices as at 21 June 2013: Silver: $19.65/oz (source: LBMA London Silver Fix); Lead: $2017/t
(source: LME); Zinc: $1809/t (source: LME). Arian will make additional releases in respect of the foregoing,
but does not undertake to update any metals prices or forward-looking statements in this document should one or
more risks or uncertainties materialise, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, or actual results
may vary materially from those anticipated, believed, estimated or expected.

Neither the TSX Venture Exchange nor its Regulation Services Provider (as that term is defined in the policies
of the TSX Venture Exchange) and no stock exchange, securities commission or other regulatory authority accepts
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release nor approved or disapproved of the information
contained herein.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT:

Arian Silver Corporation
Jim Williams
CEO
(London) +44 (0)20 7887 6599
jwilliams@ariansilver.com

OR
Arian Silver Corporation
David Taylor
Company Secretary
(London) +44 (0)20 7887 6599
dtaylor@ariansilver.com

OR

Grant Thornton Corporate Finance
Gerry Beaney / Philip Secrett / David Hignell
(London) +44 (0)20 7383 5100
gerry.d.beaney@uk.gt.com

OR
Yellow Jersey PR Limited
Dominic Barretto
(London) +44 (0)7768537739
dominic@yellowjerseypr.com

OR

XCAP Securities PLC
Jon Belliss
(London) +44 (0)20 7101 7070
jon.belliss@xcapgroup.com

OR

CHF Investor Relations
Juliet Heading
(Canada) +1 416 868 1079 x 239
juliet@chfir.com

Arian Silver Corporation

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 19:14 - 257 of 1034

Just to quickly refer back to Bill Holter's piece. It's a peach and it certainly makes you think ahead a little..... a lot actually.

Over dinner, we sat down at the table and discussed Bill's question.....

Please ask yourself this question, “If I woke up this Monday morning, today, in retrospect, and the world had blown up financially over the weekend where the banks did not open for whatever reason…would I have been ready for it?” Maybe a bad question because NO ONE can ever really be ready for it but have you done everything that you think necessary? This is a very real question. What would you be doing right now if the banks didn’t open this morning? Would you go to work? Would you be going nuts and trying to scramble to figure out a way to buy food for the next week? Would you be calling your broker to see if they could cut you a check (which no bank could cash until “later”)? What would you be doing?


Funnily enough, we had never thought about it all in this way. I am a prepper so a lot is taken care of, but to actually plan that day with this in mind we never had done before.
It certainly makes for a very interesting table conversation and it looks like we're on a very similar wave length, which helps :-)

Have any of you thought about it in such a way? And if so what would you do?

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 19:21 - 258 of 1034

Gaz - that cool swim would have been good - mineral water good for skin & hair.

I'm on water - can't afford to dehydrate here. We drink 20 litres a week plus mineral sparkling with freshly squeezed lemons which cleanse insides. In this heat digestion is paramount. Eat lots of fresh fruit & salads & vegies. Fish is excellent.

So 1 Tiger is enough for the taste. After that water for safety's sake. We will notch up to 50 = 130 over next few weeks. But we get our first visit home soon so that will break it up a bit.

Writing helps to keep brain focussed & just started reading a Kate Atkinson book - "started early, took my dog" - which is hilarious, about a female retired police officer in the North of England. I'd recommend it Snurks - it's a woman/man's read. Very funny.

Right - how's silver doing. We need all mines on lockdown & let china sweat for a wee while.

It's called the Western Stick!

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 19:27 - 259 of 1034

omce, what's your agenda? At least have the courtesy to spout your AGQ rubbish on the AGQ thread.
Thanks squirrel for putting him straight.

squirrel888 - 25 Jun 2013 19:40 - 260 of 1034

Snurks - I think the miners that can will & should go on lockdown. Preserve reserves, cash etc.

Pretty much like your dinner conversation.

We put several safety nets in place. The main thing for us would be getting home. After that we'd survive.

I think those dependent on credit or up to their eyes in debt will be forced to either go bust or broker new deals. Governments included. Interest rates will go up as risk is factored in more. As we see with Greece, Italy so often.

Right now China is the enemy. They won't get everything their own way. Who knows maybe the west will start manufacturing Ipads in the North West of the UK & bring much needed jobs. Preston uni is one of the top technology centres where many chinese kids are educated. Why go home? Just set up factories along the M6?

China now needs to think long & hard. If the Fed stops printing......it's game over for the East too.

Gulp!

snurkle1 - 25 Jun 2013 19:58 - 261 of 1034




Jeff Nielson's latest. It makes a good read

Surging Silver Sentiment Signals Spiral

http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/silver-commentary/26270-surging-silver-sentiment-signals-spiral

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