MaxK
- 11 Mar 2005 22:01
The 2005 general election is nearly upon us. Which way will you vote, and you reasons why. Here is a brief list of the potential contestants, please add your own.

More tax!

Less tax!

Dont know!

Death to all infidels!

Who gives a shit?

The great pretender.
MaxK
- 28 Apr 2005 08:37
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Good news for the tories.
Safe seat ensures return of Rifkind
Ex-minister to end 7-year absence
James Meek
Thursday April 28, 2005
The Guardian
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/election/story/0,15803,1471788,00.html
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 09:00
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Bring back Maggie !!!
bristlelad
- 28 Apr 2005 13:07
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FREDInew day today tmes/telegragh also weekends F.T. OK/YOU HAVE LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG///MAGGIE WHO CAUSE ? THE PENSION/EDUCATION/TRANSPORT/HOUSING PRODLEMS////????WHO ///
MaxK
- 28 Apr 2005 13:15
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Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 15:01
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I never called Maggie a cat. I have used some others words though!
Interesting thought though. If you put B Liar, Howard and Maggie in a bag, who do you think would get out first?
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2005 15:03
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Markx Then stop concentrating on the Sports Supplements. There are other pages.
standber
- 29 Apr 2005 08:23
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cavman and moneyplus (239 & 240)
And there's me thinking I was alone in seeing the shit we really are in!
When the scales fall from the eyes of the feckless, it will be pitiful to see.
My only wish was for David Davies to be in the driving seat. Can't have everything I suppose.
bristlelad
- 29 Apr 2005 08:44
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oh oh///BEWARE////THE THREE WISEMEN(PERSONS) THEY COULDNOT SEE THE SHIT WE WERE IN UNDER THOSE NICE HONEST TORRIES what crap/////
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 10:52
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The tories inherited it AGAIN from a labour gov--remember Jim Callaghan--crisis what crisis??? I bet I'm older and remember more than you Bristle Rubbish piled up in the streets-the dead lying in mortuaries unburied for weeks etc. It took YEARS of pain and struggle for the tories to get it right- only for labour to take on and ruin it all again after cruising along on the tory stability for the first term !! We are at the top of a debt mountain-gov. borrowing and credit card debt with no assets left behind us- Gordon has sold off our gold! Whoever gets in life is not going to stay comfortable perhaps if Labour gets in again the scales will fall from your eyes I'm getting to the age when I'm past caring!!
bristlelad
- 29 Apr 2005 13:40
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hi moneyplus do you remenber poll tax?doyou remenber black wednesday? do you remenber who/ sold off the state silver to their friends some who were still MPS/////
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:10
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Yes-poll tax was as they now admit a mistake and could have worked if they had gradually brought it in. also the current lib dem idea of local income tax based on the number of earners in the house sounds almost exactly the same to me just a different name! payment based on the number of people in a house does seem a fairer way of collecting money rather than based on the value of a property with maybe only one person in it--it's just very difficult to know how to bring it in without big trouble!!
Black Wednesday was the fault of the IMF--we should never have joined-b. europeans! Maggie never wanted to go in but Lawson, Major and Clarke shafted her by threatening to resign en masse if she held out against Europe any longer!! Now the tide is turning and the city big wigs are realising what a corrupt selfserving organisation it really is!!
Selling the silver?? hmm--as far as I can remember that was Harold Macmillan as a past PM who didn't approve of something and said it was like selling the family silver but don't know what it refers to. Now we've sold the gold as well!! not much left hey?
This is fun for me--bring it on!! I hope I'm not annoying you just teasing--as I said I'm too old to worry too much. cheers Bristle MP
Fred1new
- 29 Apr 2005 14:27
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Moneyplus.
Macmillan in context of the Maggies misgovernment did say selling of the "Family Silver" referring to selling off the previously nationalised industries at cut down prices to satisfy its own followers.
That government also abused the exploitation of the North Sea Reserves.
Rather than using these profits to improve the infrastructure of the country of the country that government plundered the finances to reward the rich and party or camp followers by Tax reductions to the already rich.
That period of government was partially responsible for the break down in social responsibility we are now suffering, imbuing the young a lack of moral responsibility and furthering the attitude and action self first and bugger your neighbour as long as you can get away with it. The actions could be illegal or socially dismissive as long as you didnt get exposed.
cavman2
- 29 Apr 2005 14:35
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Well how come after all the time Foney has had cannot he have made one Jot of difference apart from making everything worse and landing us with another mountain of DEBT.
He promised utopia at the first and at the second said we need a bit more time, now I understand he meant more time to completely ---k it all up.
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:40
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Fred--I tend to agree with you on that. trouble is the decline in political standards has continued apace and the same with society in general. I once ticked off a student on Paddington station who was aggressively abusing his poor Mother using every word a foul four letter one---he was so shocked he looked at me as if I was from another planet!! I feel as though I am sometimes!
No one is ashamed-no one resigns anymore only self counts! so who do we put in??--goodness knows why they want to get in it's a thankless task.
I think we should have a new party--the honourable party. William Hague, Ann Widdecombe, Charles Kennedy, George Galloway and yes Michael Howard!
Any other suggestions for my new party--oh I forgot Eric and Stockdog!
Fred1new
- 29 Apr 2005 14:41
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I have always thought of Tony as a Tory mole.
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:42
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You're quick off the mark--how about you in the new honourable party?
moneyplus
- 29 Apr 2005 14:44
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ps This is much more fun than watching my stocks bathing in red!
standber
- 29 Apr 2005 18:03
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bristlelad.
Refresh my memory for me,if you would. That nice mister Brown..........how
many tons of gold did he sell at the lowest price for years? And what price is that shiny stuff today?
The Euro.....that new kid on the block. How many billions of pounds did that
nice mister Brown spend in buying Euros at the entry price and what price are they now?
Ponder this fact. It is without question, one the agonies of life today....
juveniles creating mayhem in virtually every sphere of life in this country.
The worst of course within the confines of education. They KNOW they can get way with near murder and nothing can be done to stop them.
From accusations of assault to charges of sexual molestation, the teachers are powerless. In giving a pupil poor marks or suspending them from the class
invites attack by the parent. Teachers are ham-strung at every turn by PC
and Human Rights. Youngsters, still at school, are sexually promiscuous.
.......and now 'Daisy- Chaining'. Ye gods. What gives them a kick? Beating
up OAPs.
Every child at school today and those that have left within the last five
years have been taught within guidelines set by Tony Blair and continually
changing Education Ministers.
Universities are having to give remedial English classes to new entrants.
The Army are having to recruit overseas to build up the Infantry Regiments.
The Service Corps, Logistics, Engineers, Signals, REME etc are in a desperate
state for recruits. Industry? Have a guess.
AND WE'VE GOT THEM AGAIN, it appears.
MaxK
- 29 Apr 2005 20:47
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Evening folks.
standber.
I would go along with your comments in general. However I think you must put it in context.
Whilst the rules are the same for all schools, they are applied in different degrees, depending on where they are/who runs them etc. Most of the out of control schools are in traditional loony labour inner city/town controlled areas. Mix in umpteen different base languages, and you have a recipe for disaster...how do you teach someone who cant speak the lingo?
My daughter is now at uni doing a Bsc, there are NO remedial anglais readers/writers on her course or as far as she knows (i have asked) in this uni. They wouldnt stand a chance. The culprits i suspect, are the new (ex poly's) uni's who appear to take all comers...anything to keep the numbers up and keep the excess 18+ y/o's off the dole.
All governments spout the speel about education, but I wonder if that is what they really want? I think they would be far happier with a complacent electorate of sheep who will do as they are told.
In the meantime, the marching morons continue to swell the ranks.
I fear for my daughters future.
moneyplus
- 30 Apr 2005 15:20
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Excellent speech from Michael Howard today--can only guess that those who don't like him dont really listen to what he says. I believe he means every word and deserves his chance as PM.