goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 09:00
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One way to beat the tax cheats and one way only pay the HMRC civil servants more money than their private accountancy cousins.
Gradual drift and cost effective.
The government well this government dont have the will to do it truth be known.
Right off out fishing. Poached trout for tea. Cyners any recipies for trout youuuuuuuuuuuuuu old trout.
cynic
- 26 Apr 2013 09:02
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for sure the incumbents are going to get very badly mangled in the local elections ...... of course, by the time we near to a general election, all sorts of economic "magic" is likely to have happened, either genuinely or per smoke and mirrors, but most likely a good sprinkling of the former enhanced by the latter
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 09:05
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Nige Nige super Nigel.......... giving labour the overall majortity on a plate come 2015......... nice nice nice.......... a Brucie bonus..........
http://uk.advfn.com/newspaper/tom-winnifrith/18315/nigel-farage-mep-ukip-leader-the-uk-investor-show-video
cynic
- 26 Apr 2013 09:06
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trout recipes
nothing specific, though sea trout (sewin if you insist) are best treated very gently and simply ..... gentle poaching in a good court bouillon would, i am sure, also work well for rainbow or brownies .....
quick tip
make your court bouillon
put in the trout so it is covered by perhaps an inch
bring to the boil for perhaps a minute, and then turn off the heat but leave covered and allow to cool
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by the way, why would "One way to beat the tax cheats and one way only pay the HMRC civil servants more money than their private accountancy cousins" have any effect at all on tax avoidance? ...... cheating = evasion, so does not come into the equation
Haystack
- 26 Apr 2013 09:07
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Dil
It is £3.6m NOT £10m. You shouldn't read the Daily Mirror.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 09:09
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the more of Winnie I see these days the more he looks like harry Enfield in one of his sketches. Sure hes gone dooo laly.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 09:12
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Avoidance and Evasion is all one in my book cyners. And it should be.
Right off trouting.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 09:18
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hays how much did Thatcher family contribute????. We know they did but havent been given any figures yet. From what I hear they paid for normal costs associated with a funeral.
And by the way £3.5 million is £3.5 million too much in my book when we have 400,000 working people in this country having to live out of Food Banks.
God knows how they will survive when the canadian joins the BoE this summer and inflates the economy with resulting increases in interest rates.
Its only low interest rates thats keeping Giddeon in a job, when they go up all hell will break lose.
Fred1new
- 26 Apr 2013 09:21
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If the tories are mangled out in the local election then I hope the wring is applied to the remnants at the general election.
But, unfortunately, a lot of the voters are gullible and may be bribed by the set of pimps who are in power at the moment.
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I was trying to recall who Osborne and Teresa reminded me of. It must be George and Mildred
Hils, wasn't thinking of you and Manuel, or was I?
cynic
- 26 Apr 2013 09:39
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in that case sticky, if you cannot differentiate between avoidance (legal) and evasion (illegal), you really really do need to get some basic education!
several weeks ago, you decided that putting money into a pension scheme or an isa or similar was perfectly fair .... but that is tax avoidance, so make your mind up!
what about giving money or assets to your children to avoid IHT? ...... is that not fair? ..... but surely that is just another form of tax avoidance?
Haystack
- 26 Apr 2013 10:21
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And then of course the pension scheme is run by people who's job is to avoid paying too much tax on the scheme.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 13:10
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Cynic, the two cannot be seperated. Both are for crooks, a simple isa or pep is not the same thing as robbing the country blind of millions of pounds.
And as for Inheritance Tax Ive long argued that governments should come down heavily on unearned income often pilliged by a family blood line.
Now you go away and get some basic morality taught.
The public school boy system hasnt taught you any manners, perhaphs the fag system was what you need at your school a decent thrashing now and again would probably have done you good.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 13:11
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And by the way take hays of your lap, you dont need a puppet.
Haystack
- 26 Apr 2013 13:13
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Why should people pay inheritance tax. That is retaxing money already taxed once.
cynic
- 26 Apr 2013 13:23
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so sticky, are you saying
that IHT at whatever % should be levied on 100% of the deceased estate?
that there should be no tax benefit at all in setting aside money in a pension for your old age?
that you are leaving your children ZERO and that you are not even writing a will so that 100% of your estate is taxable?
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if you answer "no" to any of the above, then you are admitting that "certain things" should indeed be tax allowable to a greater or lesser extent
that being so, now be specific on exactly what should and should not be allowed ..... and don't forget to identify what a company should or should not be allowed to do ..... and of course how you will implement all these great ideas
by the way, do at least try not to use silly emotive words or at the very least, get it clear in your own mind the difference between tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (illegal)
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does one assume that the trout also evaded (illegally) your charms this morning?
were you cheating by using a worm or even a wet fly?
mind you, surely even a dry fly is cheating for you are trying to con the trout?
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 13:25
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Taxed once before but not earned by the recipitent.
Usually money like I said pilliged many years ago from the common wealth.
Plus if all thosed thieved Billions in offshore acoounts were taxed not only would we not have a structural deficit but the budget deficit would be well eaten into.
Why should the majority today pay for the sins of the minority from the past and that in fact includes immigration.
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 13:28
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Weve gone through all this before cynic, just ask fred.
He knows and you did if you had a memory what I said i would be passing down to my son.
And by the way I caught my 3 trout on maggot and its my own (well syndicate) private dam, I can fish their when i want.
cynic
- 26 Apr 2013 13:33
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maggot???????? ....... that's disgraceful!!!!! ...... you'll be using a dynamite fly next
on tax matters sticky, i am afraid you evade(!!) the question, and i'ld never expect to get anything but far left tripe from fred ...... had hoped you had a more balanced outlook; ah well, hope and expectation come to mind :-)
goldfinger
- 26 Apr 2013 13:38
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Evasion and avoidance have I have said for the tenth time are imoral.
Both should be slapped in the same envelope and some serious chancelor go all out to get money thieved from the state........ yes from the state that is why we have a parliament and a vote.
hilary
- 26 Apr 2013 13:56
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Well slap me with a kipper. I've just discovered I'm morally reprehensible. :o)