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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

hilary - 26 Apr 2013 14:39 - 24313 of 81564

Cyners,

In all seriousness, I'm not really the best person to ask about tax avoidance. Whilst evasion is clearly illegal and should be punished, I don't have any issues whatsoever with legitimate avoidance schemes.

Being morally reprehensible, I actually like to see legitimate avoidance schemes working in practice and actively encourage them. I applaud the guys who think them up.

As for their negative impact on the economy, that's nonsense. Firstly, it wouldn't be cost effective to try and close every loophole and the government would end up with serious egg on their faces if they tried, and secondly, the money lost through legitimate avoidance from top earners invariably goes back into the economy because the economy becomes more attractive as a result of allowing such legitimate schemes.

Look at it this way... Would you rather have a few bob from a high earner than nothing whatsoever if that party relocates to, say, Geneva? At the moment, the West End is awash with wealthy Chinese and Arab businessmen because it's a relatively attractive place to be.

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 14:45 - 24314 of 81564

i do wish the village idiot would either take his medication or stop cluttering up the board with his rubbish - or both!

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sticky - why are you so totally incapable of supporting your opinion with something sensible instead of a load of populist codswallop?

so far, you have said not one word about what you would actually DO to prevent what you perceive as tax avoidance abuses
furthermore, you seem to have a muddled view as to what is fair and allowable - i think, but it is not entirely clear, that you approve of pensions and isas being tax allowable but not where one should therefore draw the line; and don't forget the how either

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 14:47 - 24315 of 81564

thanks for your input hils
any thoughts as to whether or not the rules should be somehow tightened to stop at least some of the tax avoidance by multi-nationals? ...... how, would be even better!

hilary - 26 Apr 2013 14:49 - 24316 of 81564

No, why would you even want to stop it? If you discourage corporate avoidance and a large firm moves overseas, what impact would that have on employment and the revenue contributions of the employees. Worse still, the government might even incur welfare costs for the redundant workforce.

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 14:51 - 24317 of 81564

Tanker.....

TANKER - 26 Apr 2013 14:24 - 24310 of 24318

cynic tou are the idiot full of shit a coward that is your family a load of cowards who left their country like scared sheep.......ends.

Where did he run away from?????.

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 14:53 - 24318 of 81564

and a special for the village idiot ......

Archbishop Welby’s father, the late Gavin Bramhall James Welby, and his German–Jewish ancestry.

so i guess that makes the current archbishop of canterbury no better than an illegal immigrant - and he's got filthy, cowardly jewish blood too!

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 14:55 - 24319 of 81564

Tanker you their, where did he run away from????????????????????????????????.

Haystack - 26 Apr 2013 14:57 - 24320 of 81564

I see no connection between tax avoidance and morality. To be honest, that includes tax evasion as well. If any particular government doesn't like what is going on then legislate against it and try and enforce the law.

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 14:59 - 24321 of 81564

Ohhhhhh my god at last the penny has dropped with hays.

Hays where did cynic run away from please???

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 15:00 - 24322 of 81564

Cynic....... where did you run away from?????????????????????????????????????

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 15:02 - 24323 of 81564

hopefully from the defense when i was playing club rugby :-)

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 15:09 - 24324 of 81564

Post entered in error.

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 15:16 - 24325 of 81564

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goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 15:32 - 24326 of 81564

Ohhhhh thats enough cynic.

Their are women who post here and youve gone too far.

If you had any decency about you, youd remove that post.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2013 15:34 - 24327 of 81564

poland is family colors are bright yellow

Fred1new - 26 Apr 2013 15:35 - 24328 of 81564

“hilary - 26 Apr 2013 13:56 - 24304 of 24326
Well slap me with a kipper. I've just discovered I'm morally reprehensible. :o)”

I think you could have realised that a long time ago.


Hays, Manuel and Hils,

I have a feeling you work on the price of the object and ability possess it, rather than its “value”.

Seemingly your reference points for “morality” are based on what and for how long you can get away with an action and whether it adds to your own personal wealth.

The measurement of value for you would appear to be based on its cost to yourselves and the price you can sell the actions, or the objects.

Also, considered is the balance of being apprehended and getting away with an action, or not doing so.

Many psychopaths have similar views.

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Manuel,

Suggest you have anal-plasty, but be careful whether the after the operation that they don't throw you away, instead of the remnants of your anus.

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PS,

I wondered why "arse" cropped up so frequently in your postings.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2013 15:36 - 24329 of 81564

cynic is a sick prasite is family betrayed the jews in poland

cynic - 26 Apr 2013 15:36 - 24330 of 81564

sticky - no more offensive than others posted about me by certain others

goldfinger - 26 Apr 2013 15:37 - 24331 of 81564

Poland.

The Nazis were murderers their.

Cant blame him for running.

Obviously ran with all his money though.

skinny - 26 Apr 2013 15:38 - 24332 of 81564

Friday afternoon in the Zoo :-(
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