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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 18:28 - 2437 of 11003

Hi Spaceman, System idle process = 97/8, but in terms of memory usage it is only 20K. The largest 3 processes by usage are:

waol = 22,404K (0 CPU)
SVCHOST.exe = 20, 072K (1 cpu) - no idea what this is?
explorer.exe - 16,872 k (0 cpu)

Thanks.


Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 18:28 - 2438 of 11003

Me E

When the CPU usage shoots to 100% does it shut down ie. Blue screen or does it appear to freeze? In which case, if you leave it long enough does it recover?

What programs are set to run on startup? On my system the only thing taking more than 15,000K of memory is Internet Explorer.

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 18:33 - 2439 of 11003

Hi Optimist, in seems to have done all you have described! It has shut down the system (it reboots if I start) but normally it restarts to where it shut down.

Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 18:48 - 2440 of 11003

Mr E

Is this your new computer? Did you copy everything accross from the old disk?

System idle process near 100% could be a driver problem, possibly grapics or motherboard but there are plenty of other possible causes.

If it shuts down then that suggests a dodgy power setting or something overheating but System idle process shouldn't be effected then.

Spaceman - 08 Nov 2004 18:53 - 2441 of 11003

Um, Whats Waol? is AOL your ISP?

But I thought CPU was going over 60% has the problem gone?

Not sure about this one, could be browser hijack? do you have adaware or spybot?

O, you got any more ideas??? ;-)

Spaceman - 08 Nov 2004 18:55 - 2442 of 11003

Optimist, confused I would expect system idle to be high?

CC - 08 Nov 2004 19:06 - 2443 of 11003

How would I go about recording 10 minutes of level2 so that I could replay in media player or real-player or something similar

Any help appreciated

Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 19:10 - 2444 of 11003

Spaceman / Mr E

I've just checked my system. My system idle proccess is always low because I run UD agent which gobbles up any surplus CPU power. If I turn UD agent off then it does indeed remain very high.

However, it should drop down as soon as the comp tries to do anything. If it dosn't then my comments in 2441 apply.

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 19:11 - 2445 of 11003

Hi gents.

My new one but haven't changed hard disks yet, not sure when I'll get round to that. Will probably put into my local shop.

I am at a complete lose. The problem has not gone completely but it's about 50% better and I even managed to run ad-adare without it crashing (was inbetween 90-100% whilst running). All it found was a few data miners.

I think it might be something to do with an Intel Graphics driver (extreme something or other which I have taken off but it didn't resolve it) or it is linked to Firefox?

But then again what do I know. How can it be working fine (last night),then just like that it goes wrong, then after a couple of hours it warms up and is ok again!!! Computers!

Yes WAOL = my ISP (AOL)

Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 19:15 - 2446 of 11003

CC

Try a Google of "capture screen as video". There appear to be several options but I've never tried them. Please post if you do.

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 19:16 - 2447 of 11003

Yes system idle process is ok when I start to do something (whats UD?). You are going to laugh at this but last night and today, every 5-10 minutes a virtual dog barks at me through my browser! My dog keeps looking at me! I have no idea where it's coming from, AM is the only window I have open at the open (&AOL). I wonder if this is causing the problem?

Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 19:20 - 2448 of 11003

Mr E

Have you any utilities on the computer that will measure temperatures?

It might be worth making sure the memory chips are inserted properly (power off first).

What is Firefox?

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 19:25 - 2449 of 11003

Optimist, no I haven't, are the easy to find?

Firefox = broswer, http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Optimist - 08 Nov 2004 19:28 - 2450 of 11003

Mr E

For UD agent see http://www.moneyam.com/TradersRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=2649

If something is barking at you then you have some programs that should not be there. Have a look at the proccesses in task manager to see if there is anything suspicious. Running Adaware and Spubot in safe mode may help.

Mr Euro - 08 Nov 2004 20:50 - 2451 of 11003

Thanks. I can't beleive this, computer is back to normal now and only a dog bark per hour! Very odd.

Dieng - 08 Nov 2004 22:49 - 2452 of 11003

Mr E ... I noticed you were using Win Task Mngr to identify your running processes, and re. svchost.exe, you mentioned "... - no idea what this is? ".

I recommend a Free utility called 'Process Explorer', from www.sysinternals.com . It gives more info than Task Mngr (for example, it would tell you that svchost.exe is a Microsoft process, namely Generic Host Process for Win32 Services). Very helpfull for identifing what is, and more importantly, what shouldn't be, running on your PC.

Re. your problem, it's CPU Usage Graph might help you. As you know, Windows Task Mngr has a CPU usage graph, but it's just a total. On the (similar) Sys Internals graph, as you move your mouse back over the graph, it identifies the process which was consuming the most CPU at that historical moment. So, instead of watching Task Mngr CPU column live, you can wait for a CPU 100% excursion, and run back over the CPU graph for the last few mins and see what process caused it.

D.

scussy - 09 Nov 2004 01:41 - 2453 of 11003

optimist,thanks i'll try that,

Mr E,
i had a simular problem ages ago,it was a program that come with my ASUS motherboard that looked at TEMP etc,i was getting reboots for no reason,
i stopped using it and has been ok since,and i use alot of programs and IE windows together,
hope it might be that,

steve

Kayak - 09 Nov 2004 01:49 - 2454 of 11003

Mr Euro, do you run Winpatrol by any chance? It does bark. The only program that I could find that does so :-)

Mr Euro - 09 Nov 2004 08:28 - 2455 of 11003

Thanks all. I spoke to soon as the laptop started messing around again, CPU at 100%, shutting down, screen only works when it gets a bang etc... Will look at it later and run the progs suggested.

On another machine now.

Kayak, not that Iknow off, could do with something like that though to replace my bell. I use it when I want some food/drink, in fact ever since I have been ill - on the other hand the missus is used to the bell and she might start to complain with a bark :-)

Optimist - 09 Nov 2004 09:26 - 2456 of 11003

Me E

When I asked about utilities to check temperatures it was with the idea of using them to monitor the computer though as Scussy said, they have got the potential to disrupt.

If screen only works when it gets a bang, that is a hardware fault and you should get it replaced.
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