Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

there's certainly one on this site, but he's assuredly unelectable!

Fruitcakes or not, a lot of people in this country are becoming totally fed-up with the political system as it is and those who voted for UKIP have sent out a message. If Cameron doesn't sit up and take notice he will be out on his ear at the next General Election. We have far too many MPs who are corrupt, arrogant and out of touch with the voters - I don't care if they are left wing or right wing.

Labour certainly didn't do very well. It looks like UKIP took a lot of votes from them. The overall picture for the Conservatives wasn't bad. If UKIP hadn't been a factor, I would have expected worse for the Conservatives from just Labour. Labour's performance was pretty poor.

Haystack,

Again you state that UKIP have no real policies.

I take it that from that comment you have not read their manifesto (see my previous post) or you would see they have policies on all relevent political matters.

thank you doodle .... i was getting a bit lonely!

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greek - what post number? .... are you sure it isn't just a ukip "wishlist"?

Many of their policies are plain silly. They want to allow smoking again. They want a total freeze on immigration for three years and then a very low cap. Due to their inexperience, they don't really know how to come up with sensible policies. It is totally unrealistic to think that they could do well in a general election as they do not have the organisation at grass roots level. It is also quite clear that they have no ability to vet their candidates. It is the sort of party that will attract all the loonies.

I am a none smoke and I hate the smell of cigarette smoke, but I believe that people within reason should be able to smoke, IE in a designated area of a Public House for example.

As to not having the organisation at grass root level, I fully agree but political parties have to start somewhere.

Just listening to Cameron who has just said that it is no good insulting people who have voted for a party such as UKIP and that these voters must be respected.

What a bloody hypocrite!

Proud to be a loony!

He is just saying what is expected. Of course he is being hypocratical and that is exactly how I would want him to be on this issue. He knows they are nutters and their supporters are gullible. I remember when the SDP broke away from Labour and were touted as a major political force. They ended up on the heap and they had many advantages such as real government experience. An ex foreign minister, a home secretary etc. Does anyone remember 3 short years ago when there was Clegg mania. What happened with that? The Libs be came nowhere again as people returned to type and voted for the two main parties. So it will be with UKIP.

"The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet!"

UKIP is Farage, before today dumb asses like goldfinger won't even have heard of him

Hays your in a state of denial. Either that or pissed again.

Was it Gobbles who said "if you say it enough people will start to believe you",( something like that) trouble is your believing your own propaganda.

UKIP thrashed the torries today, labour got a decent return on NONE heartland ground.

What you have to ask now is HOW long will the coalition stay together?????????

Not long imo.

And remember this, its not just voters who will cross over, just you watch in the next week or so first one MP followed by others.

Your party is in tatters.

Just a flash in the pan. What a way to create policy. Because Farage is a chain smoker, he has allowing smoking as a policy. That tells you all you need tho know about UKIP.

If smoking was still allowed in a tap room in pubs thousands of pubs would still be trading and not have been closed down and made into flats by our brothers from the former common wealth.

Think about it.

Smoking is a dead issue. Every major western country is heading down the no smoking road. It is indicative of the loony attitude that UKIP wants to fight it.

Hays,

You seem to be reciting the mantras sent down from head office once again.

Manuel is out on his plank as usual.

Cameron is doing another u-turn, the only thing he seems good at. I suppose you can put it down to practice.

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Labour didn't do badly and in a period of reconstruction and not in their homeland didn't do badly.

Tightening up and tidying up policies and presentation will help.

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Lib/dem disappointed, and supporters still feeling the leadership betrayed their "moral" stances. Strangely, I understand the fix that Clegg was in when he went into the coalition. Not sure, if there is a route for him to recover the party following.

Greens.

Would like to see them with a few more MPs., but shortage of cash will obstruct them.

But at least their party, I think, has a degree of honesty that all the others lack.


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UKIP, Fauxpage, dangerous and pushing politics to the right on populist policies.

Pushing Cameron in his weakness to move further to the right, which will split off the moderate parts of the tory party.

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Bet for the future, a coalition Government of Labour and Libs.

Hays, as a party apparatchik what will be that date?

Women’s Institute members wore joke eye patches, wigs and wooden legs to greet an old sea dog giving a talk on pirates.

They thought Colin Darch, 75, would regale them with tales of buccaneers such as Blackbeard and Captain Kidd.

But they got a sinking feeling when they realised the retired sea captain was there to tell of his 47-day ordeal at the hands of brutal Somali pirates.

Stephanie George, of the 21-member Parkham WI in Devon, said: “We didn’t know much about him but the notes said he was Captain Darch and he was talking about piracy.

“I thought he was from a local fundraising group who dress up as pirates to raise money for charity.

"Naturally everyone was aghast when we realised our mistake.

“There he was delivering this harrowing story about how he was held hostage and feared for his life, and we were all sitting there dressed as Captain Hook.

“We apologised profusely but Mr Darch was a great sport and it didn’t seem to phase him at all.
Colin, from Appledore, Devon, was taken hostage by 20 gun-toting pirates who hijacked his 120-foot ship off the coast of Somalia in 2008.

He and an engineer were ordered to sail the Danish-registered Svitzer Korsakov and warned they would be shot if they disobeyed their captors.

The crew were only freed after a rumoured £350,000 ransom was paid.

Married granddad-of-12 Colin went to the WI meeting to read extracts from his book Capture By Somali Pirates & Other Events At Sea.

Thankfully he saw the funny side. He said: “They seemed to be a little embarrassed but it didn’t offend me in the slightest.

“It’s been five years now and sometimes I have to remind myself just how terrifying and frightening it was.

“In any event, the ladies didn’t look the slightest bit like Somali pirates - more like the Pirates of Penzance.

“In the end they asked me to select the best costume. I gave them all marks out of ten. It was just a bit of fun.”

One WI member wrote an official notice about the talk saying: “Embarrassingly, the WI all dressed up as pirates for the event, not realising that Captain Darch was going to be talking about his experience of being held hostage by Somali pirates rather than piracy in general.

Haystack - post 24642. Okay I must be a loony then, having been a Conservative voter for nearly 30 years. The Conservative party need to get their act together as they have totally lost the plot imo. The fact that they couldn't win a General Election outright after 11 years of Labour government and with Gordon Brown as Prime Minister surely sends out a message that something is going radically wrong. You talk abut UKIP not vetting their candidates properly - my God, I don't think I've read the papers one day for the last few years when an MP of any of the three main parties hasn't disgraced himself/herself. Vetting policy for candidates - the Conservatives, Labour and Liberals need to get their own houses in order before they start pontificating on that issue.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-elections/10036765/Local-election-analysis-Is-Ukip-a-passing-storm-or-a-major-earthquake.html

Haystack Posy- 24652

What did you wear to the party?

Just seen image of Manuel and you:

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You may well vote for UKIP, but I am sure you really know that they cannot get elected. All you will achieve is that Labour will find it easier to get elected.