for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

The way things are going, within a few weeks we may be going onto the SEO website and find the only message is "This Company is Currently unavailable, please check back in the future (next millennium perhaps) for updates".

What the hell is happening.

Carclo partnership not looking too rosy either!!

From devisland.



Wal-Mart have only just been told about the Silo, a French film team went to Biotec, the French President visited Sphere and Biotec, then went to tell the German Chancellor all about it


Only Biotec, then Merkel

ECONOMY. Emmericher businesses gets on in big style into the manufacture of materials for biodegradable bags in July. For five million Euro was erected a silo-installation.

EMMERICH. The prominent figure follows immediately one after another at the Emmericher business "Biotec" at present. The leadership-top of the company-giant of "Walmart" informed about the production plans at the Werner-Heisenberg-Stra only lately. A French film-team turned with Biotec. Even the French president Nicola Sarkozy didn't pass the Emmerichern: He looked at products like garbage-bags and tote bags near "Sphere" in Paris, that are produced on basis of Granulat of Biotec, - before he paid Chancellor Angela Merkel a commencement-visit at all

The reason for the excitement about Biotec is that the company will produce a Granulat from end July in the big style in Emmerich as material for biodegradable plastic. A circumstance, that will still provide many fuss on the French market. Because plastic bags are from 2010, for example, and - sacks, that are based on oil, prohibited, Italy pronounced a prohibition even already for 2009. "Sphere", the French mother-company, recognized the perspective, Biotec bought years before one and a half and will produce garbage-bags in his/its factories from the Granulat.

"Perspectives are great"

Biotec has all trumps in the hand. The company produces as plastic-basis Granulat from potato-strength. The preferences: It is about a growing back raw material - some expert fears, that there won't be any more oil in 30 years: The plastic then would be in the end. By oil-suppliers and oil-prices, an independence is attained. Bags from the Biotec-Granulat have similar qualities like plastic. But an essential advantage: "Bio-plastic dissolves in humus after two weeks, Biotec-Chef Harald Schmidt expounds. And: The manufacture of the Granulates is non-polluting.

"A big market and we is built now gets on big, Schmidt looks into the future. "In three years, bio-plastic bags will be more affordable than plastic-bags." In the past, Biotec essentially had devoted itself this Bio-Granulates to the research. "Why should we not earn also money with the production?", tell yourself Schmidt, Inventors of this material. Biotec names 250 patents its own today.

At first, Biotec would like with its 47 co-workers, produce 100,000 tons annually ten strengths of temporary work-companies and with support of Convent with the logistics. That the fully automatic production is high-driven, is foreseeable. Also at the jobs, something will then do. Schmidt: "The perspectives are great."Five million Euro invested Biotec into the erection of a new production-installation. The new installation near Biotec consists of nine silos, that are 15 meters high in each case and have a diameter of three meters. 500 tons raw material fit in. Potato-strength is in-pumped as powder - on the end comes out Granulat again. That becomes at the processor, with Biotec is this above all the French mother "Sphere" - passed on. Sphere produces tote bags and garbage-bags from the Granulat, for example. End of July, the production should start. Biotec has beside the French mother "Sphere" in Paris another English 'mother' since one and a half years incidentally: "Stanelco" in Southampton.



Angela Merkel is the Chancellor of Germany

Merkel, who studied Physics and holds a Doctorate in Physical Chemistry, is simultaneously the first female Chancellor of Germany, the first citizen of the former German Democratic Republic to assume the chancellery of reunited Germany, and the first woman to lead Germany since it became a modern nation-state in 1871. She is also, as of 2007, the youngest person to be German chancellor since the Second World War. Merkel, considered by Forbes Magazine to be the most powerful woman in the world at present, is only the third woman to serve on the G8 and in 2007 became the first woman to chair a G8 summit after Margaret Thatcher.

In her function as Chancellor of Germany, Merkel is currently (rotative, 1st term 2007) also president of the European Council.

In 2007, Merkel became a Member of the Council of Women World Leaders, a group of women heads of state and government

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

http://www.nrz.de/nrz/nrz.emmerich.volltext.php?kennung=on1nrzPOLStaEmmerich39239&zulieferer=nrz&kategorie=POL&rubrik=Stadt&region=Emmerich&auftritt=NRZ&dbserver=1

At risk of starting a new wave of ramping, this looks interesting.

The thread at PM's site is well worth a read, particularly the attempts to calculate the silo capacities before the article confirmed the details! Could have you rushing to buy back your shares!

I particularly like 'The new plant with Biotec consists of nine silos, which are in each case 15 meters high and a diameter of three meters have. 500 tons raw material fit in. Potato strength is in-pumped as powder - at the end granulates comes out again. That is passed on to the processing plant - with Biotec that is above all the French nut/mother Sphere -. Sphere makes carrying bags and garbage bags of the granulates for example. At the end of July is production to start. Biotech has by the way beside the French nut/mother Sphere in Paris for one and a half years a further - English - Mutter: Stanelco in Southampton.
'

The French nut/mother Sphere and the English Mutter Stanelco! What a gem,

as a counterpoint to the above:
CARLCO results show that SEO etal still have a lot of work to do re formula of capsules.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for field trials and sales this millenia.
Those lying bastards have struck again.

OH MY GOD
They've updated the SEO website.

Look under share price:

It now reads.
(recycle) Please consider the environment before printing this website

If only they were as considerate when it comes to burning cash.

no doubt this major revamp will have the punters flocking in. LOL
:-)

I Google Earthed the Biotec plant and could see no silos. The image was dated 2007 so I presume it was taken at the start of the year, so didn't take long for the silos to appear.

Perhaps the silos are similar to the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, (he say's tongue in cheek).
Careful Garyble you don't want MI5 after you, spying on Biotec like that.

Well, I think I might top up tomorrow - 1 by Christmas if half of what PM is saying is true!

OB,

I never believe anything our PM says. Didn't even know he posted.

I remember saying to one of the de-rampers a couple of years back " if you're right then the Stanelco board are a bunch of crooks ! "

I never believed for one moment that a listed company could get away with a constant stream of untruths. A hard lesson learned and I'm sorry for all the people who've lost alot more money than I have. Back to the drawing board and trust no-one.

I am so naive. I still find it hard to believe thay our regulatory bodies are so toothless that no-one will be brought to book over the "contracts being finalised " statements.

I thought I'd stumbled across the next Microsoft. So much for the eternal optimist. I could make more money and "invest" it safer by backing ManU and Chelsea to win.

Signing off thoroughly disillusioned and demoralised.

I believed very little he said when he posted here, Greek, and frequently said so.

Now he has his own website and SEO BB.

The 'silo' info was gathered in the main by a poster there.

I know it's pretty difficult to see anything postive in SEO these days, but does anyone see the 'silo' story with any optimism?

Oblomov,


My previous post was (I never believe anything our PM says. Didn't even know he posted) Was a veiled reference to our PM..Prime Minister.
I was trying to be funny, obviously I won't give up the day job.

OK back to the PM on his own site. He is still posting the same comments of a couple of years ago, and yes he may end up being right but like you very much doubt it.
I do believe that when he was forecasting 35 per share, he did have faith that that price would be reached.
The thing is having followed his posts for eons, I believe he has a large amount of cash invested in SEO. With the sp as is there is nothing else he can do except to ramp this share as much as possible hoping to cut losses.
And yet, some appear to believe him according to their posts, or more likely they are in the same boat, assisting him with the baling out before the SEO boat sinks.

PM was always over exuberant, and probably still is. But in his defence, it looks as though he was as duped as the rest of us.
I take comfort in the fact that many people much closer to all this must have been duped as well.
I doubt Elizabeth Filkin was complicent in this for a mere 20 grand. I doubt Asda & WM would spend a year testing at God knows what cost had they been aware of the facts. T&G would not take on a cig filter auction for free had they known it was worthless. Perseco would not waste any effort on trialling a dud product. The various institutions would not have invested millions if they had the facts as we now think we know them.
Conclusion; Either the SEO board are conmen supreme or there is still much going on about which we have no idea. Could that be the silo story? I have no idea. And I can pull no positives out of it. The only thing I would treat as positive at the moment is an EGM to tell us the exact current situation and a full explanation of how the company went from its position 2 years ago to now. That at least would show a little honesty, which would be a start.
Alan

Sorry, Greek - missed the joke completely.

I know PM is as big a ramper as the other PM (TB), but wouldn't it be a little silly of us to miss something positive at last in the SEO story merely because it came to light through PM's site?

What I posted above were not PM's words - they were from two articles from German and French publications.

The First, from NRZ translates as follows (according to Google!!!):-

'Only Biotec, then Merkel

ECONOMY. Emmericher businesses gets on in big style into the manufacture of materials for biodegradable bags in July. For five million Euro was erected a silo-installation.

EMMERICH. The prominent figure follows immediately one after another at the Emmericher business "Biotec" at present. The leadership-top of the company-giant of "Walmart" informed about the production plans at the Werner-Heisenberg-Stra only lately. A French film-team turned with Biotec. Even the French president Nicola Sarkozy didn't pass the Emmerichern: He looked at products like garbage-bags and tote bags near "Sphere" in Paris, that are produced on basis of Granulat of Biotec, - before he paid Chancellor Angela Merkel a commencement-visit at all

The reason for the excitement about Biotec is that the company will produce a Granulat from end July in the big style in Emmerich as material for biodegradable plastic. A circumstance, that will still provide many fuss on the French market. Because plastic bags are from 2010, for example, and - sacks, that are based on oil, prohibited, Italy pronounced a prohibition even already for 2009. "Sphere", the French mother-company, recognized the perspective, Biotec bought years before one and a half and will produce garbage-bags in his/its factories from the Granulat.

"Perspectives are great"

Biotec has all trumps in the hand. The company produces as plastic-basis Granulat from potato-strength. The preferences: It is about a growing back raw material - some expert fears, that there won't be any more oil in 30 years: The plastic then would be in the end. By oil-suppliers and oil-prices, an independence is attained. Bags from the Biotec-Granulat have similar qualities like plastic. But an essential advantage: "Bio-plastic dissolves in humus after two weeks, Biotec-Chef Harald Schmidt expounds. And: The manufacture of the Granulates is non-polluting.

"A big market and we is built now gets on big, Schmidt looks into the future. "In three years, bio-plastic bags will be more affordable than plastic-bags." In the past, Biotec essentially had devoted itself this Bio-Granulates to the research. "Why should we not earn also money with the production?", tell yourself Schmidt, Inventors of this material. Biotec names 250 patents its own today.

At first, Biotec would like with its 47 co-workers, produce 100,000 tons annually ten strengths of temporary work-companies and with support of Convent with the logistics. That the fully automatic production is high-driven, is foreseeable. Also at the jobs, something will then do. Schmidt: "The perspectives are great."Five million Euro invested Biotec into the erection of a new production-installation. The new installation near Biotec consists of nine silos, that are 15 meters high in each case and have a diameter of three meters. 500 tons raw material fit in. Potato-strength is in-pumped as powder - on the end comes out Granulat again. That becomes at the processor, with Biotec is this above all the French mother "Sphere" - passed on. Sphere produces tote bags and garbage-bags from the Granulat, for example. End of July, the production should start. Biotec has beside the French mother "Sphere" in Paris another English 'mother' since one and a half years incidentally: "Stanelco" in Southampton. '

The second, from Le Marne Agricole, here:-

http://www.reussir51.com/public/index.php?a=ficheDetailArticle&codeArticle=GBN2C0AR

Translation here:-

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reussir51.com%2Fpublic%2Findex.php%3Fa%3DficheDetailArticle%26codeArticle%3DGBN2C0AR&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

The gist of this all being the manufacture by Biotec of 100,000 tons of bioplastics per year - is SEO's 50% share of this anything to get excited about? Bear in mind this news was released from Sphere, not SEO!

PM has this down as a 23m annual profit for SEO - say no more!

Alan,

I fully agree PM was duped like most of us, me included. I think he is really hurting money wise, that's why we get the continual ramping. I don't blame him, the trouble is some appear to soak it up. It may be a case of some being in too deep to face the truth, smell the coffee etc.
And yes some honesty from SEO would be nice, but not holding my breath for a RNS giving clarification, of what went wrong.

Oblomov,

I fully agree we would be silly to mis out on something just because PM posted it, that is why I still read his posts.
I also give him full credit for all the research he has compiled over the years.
He must have spent many hundreds of hours researching Stanelco, with the result of some very valuable information especially in the early days.
Most of his information was accurate and very informative.
His prophesies and conjecture was not so accurate. Hindsight as they say is a great gift.
He was probably (because of his in depth research) duped more than most.

Yes Greek - but what do you think of the Biotec news!

OB,

Would like to believe it, but it's a bit like stroking a dog (not a pun on what some people call this share) . If it's previously bitten you your more likely to leave it alone.
Perhaps a bit paranoid where SEO is concerned, but to be honest not sure.

The question is; Which side of the conclusion do we fall into?
Were Asda, WM, Perseco, the institutions, the FSA and us all conned by a team whose story would be rejected for Oceans 14 as too far fetched, or, is the silo story something that was known long, long ago by these people and not yet ready for general release, but is the start of why all these people got involved?
Huge silos do not spring up overhight. They are planned, applied for, designed and constructed. If they exist, the ball started rolling well before the 0.8p placing.
Did the potential contractees like Starpol or its derivitives, but think greenseal was a waste of time and money. Were the mmu's abandoned because Biotec could show that a huge increase in production was planned that would supply all SEO's needs, making SEO contractually obliged to abandon licensing and mmu's?
The silo story raises more questions, few answers and the opportunity for SEO to spin an even better yarn, if they are indeed a bunch of crooks.
Alan

Alan,

I don't think the proposed end customers were conned, as the product did look very good as a future cost/planet etc saver. I agree re your more questions than answers. The trouble has always been, shortage of answers.
I rarely sit on the fence, but re the silos, I haven't a clue, true or false.

Greek.