goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 09 May 2013 15:22
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22470021
BBC political editor Nick Robinson understands the Speaker is to accept the amendment, so it could be debated and voted on next Tuesday or Wednesday.
The prime minister has told his party that his coalition partners would oppose any attempt by the government to stage a Commons vote on the issue.
Haystack
- 09 May 2013 15:26
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As you can see, the way you reported the story was incorrect. You said above, "Eurosceptics Tory MPs are plotting a Commons vote on an EU referendum" In reality they are just debating a motion to express regret about no Referendum on the EU. All a bit pointless.
goldfinger
- 09 May 2013 15:44
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I didnt report it, Nick Robinson did, and your still guessing.
Nothing concrete yet.
niceonecyril
- 09 May 2013 15:45
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goldfinger
- 09 May 2013 15:57
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hmmmm nice one cyril........interesting.
Haystack
- 09 May 2013 15:58
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I am not guessing. It is just to express regret. They have taken advantage of a recent technicality regarding amendments to the Queen's speech. Normally only the official opposition can table an amendment. In the last parliament, because of the coalition, the possibility of a second motion was allowed to enable the Libs to join in. It is all a bit silly. I know that it is reported that the Speaker has allowed the motion for next Tuesday or Wednesday, but I think that it may be undecided yet.
goldfinger
- 09 May 2013 17:02
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hmmmm yes I think I understand you.....all a bit messy hays.
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 18:38
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Hays,
You have some nice friends:
I know Cameron and henchman treat the country as their private thiefdom, but it appears a lot more widespread and OH DEAR one little tory feels bullied:-
If one unemployed person falsely claimed expenses, the self righteous torie with Cameron and Osborne in the lead would be calling for stiff prison sentences.
"MPs repay £390,000 in 'profits' on second homes
Seventy politicians have agreed to pay back profits
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'Dual income' MPs under scrutiny
Row over MPs expenses disclosure
MPs have repaid nearly £390,000 in profits judged to have been made on taxpayer-funded homes, says Ipsa, Parliament's expenses watchdog.
The highest payment was £81,446 by Welsh Secretary David Jones, one of 71 MPs who continued to claim towards mortgage interest payments until 2012.
They had to repay a share of any capital gain and most have now done so.
But Tory Stewart Jackson says Ipsa is bullying him by taking legal action to get him to pay £54,000 it says he owes."
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 18:43
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I think Cameron should clear up his own dwellings before raising "bedroom" tax.
MPs expenses: 22 MPs get 'dual income' from London homes
MPs can currently claim a maximum of £20,000 in annual accommodation costs in London
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Row over MPs expenses disclosure
Row over MPs' alleged tax dodge
MPs are claiming rent on taxpayer-funded second homes in London at the same time as letting out other properties in the city.
The BBC has found that 22 MPs have such arrangements, which do not breach the rules but raise further questions about loopholes in the expenses system.
One MP said he had "no choice" but to rent out a property he owned and live elsewhere since the rules had changed.
David Cameron said it was a matter for the independent expenses watchdog.
The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) said it was up to MPs how they handled their living arrangements and the current expenses system was designed to be fair to both Parliamentarians and taxpayers.
Senior Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem figures are among the MPs to claim the cost of rent on subsidised second homes while also receiving rental income from other properties in London.
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The amount of rent and associated costs MPs can claim in London was capped at £1,450 a month in a far-reaching overhaul of the system in 2010, which also stopped MPs being reimbursed for mortgage interest payments on properties they owned.
The latest allegations were revealed in The Daily Telegraph, the newspaper which broke the expenses scandal in 2009.
In its latest report, the newspaper says 27 MPs are claiming for homes in London while simultaneously letting property in the capital.
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 18:44
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Politics stink, and some individuals more than others.
Haystack
- 09 May 2013 19:07
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Don't forget that many of those MPs are from other parties, especially Labour.
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 19:26
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The tories seem better at it than other parties. Must be in their Jeans.
Haystack
- 09 May 2013 19:51
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I thought there were about as many Labour as others and several Labour MPs went to prison.
cynic
- 09 May 2013 19:53
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this is liking watching a soap .... you go away for 6 weeks but when you come back nothing has changed nor the storyline progressed ..... still the same banshees taking centre stage too
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 21:09
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Manuel,
I can't help your lot being centre stage again.
dreamcatcher
- 09 May 2013 21:17
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Haystack
- 09 May 2013 21:22
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It is certainly pleasant that Labour is just a footnote and can be ignored.
Fred1new
- 09 May 2013 21:53
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At your peril!
With the tories in self destruct mode, they don't have to do anything other than wait.
I don't know which tory split is stabbing the other in the back the quickest.
Could be Macbeth.
Dil
- 10 May 2013 02:43
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Stan - 08 May 2013 13:56 - 24798 of 24856
What did he do exactly to get all those medals then ?
Fathered Charlie :-)
Dil
- 10 May 2013 02:49
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Fred1new - 08 May 2013 18:52 - 24821 of 24857
Some Germans don't want a Federal Union and they generally are from the far right of politics as in France with Le Pen and in this country with UKIP and the looney right of the tory party.
The more moderate see the social and financial advantages of more integration, rather than becoming a fringe member, hoping to pick up crumbs.
The German government is more scared of holding a referendum than ours on staying in the EU as for years now every opinion poll is 60%+ on leaving !