Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I think the way things are going cynic all parties will struggle to get over 30%. This will effect the Tories more than Labour but with the Libs probably getting whacked then it is possible that Labour could get a small overall majority.

And no I won't be happy because I want a referendum , I want out.

so will you be voting ukip or conservative?

I've found the table for the 2010 general election, but i'm afraid it won't print out in a decent format ..... however, it was as follows

Conservative - 10,706,647 = 36.1% (306 seats)
Labour - 8,604,358 = 29.0% (258 seats)
Lib/Dem - 6,827,938 = 23.0% (57 seats)
UKIP - 917,832 = 3.1% (0 seats)

Sundry other parties - Green, Sinn Fein, DUP, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Alliance won 27 seats + 1 independent

Long way off yet cynic but doubt if I'll vote Tory because I think the Chancellor is a clown.

dil do what all my tory friends are going to do votE
UKIP FOR A FRESH START AND CLEAN UP THE UK FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ONCE AND FOR ALL .

mark Pritchard says he is a right wing tory he is a wimp more labour than
most labour MPs

Oh gawd.. he's off again.

Dil - assuming you will actually vote, which i think is the case, then you have something of a problem ..... i take it that you are pretty much set anti-europe, so you could vote ukip, as no other party is set that way ..... however, if that then lets in labour though a split conservative vote, then you'll be totally stymied as there is no way labour will to get uk out of europe, and indeed, they are terrified even to allow a referendum on the matter

stan - i have never squelched anyone, so shall not do so even to the vilalge idiot .... i find the best way is just to skate past his page-cluttering nonsense

Well he certainly like a rant,.. don't you Tanks -):

Look at those figures and you can see UKIP's problems. The Libs got 23% of the vote and got 9% of the seats. It is very difficult to make an impact on the two main parties.

cynic , besides a blip when Blair tried to impose a London based candidate on our constituency and the local Labour candidate who should have got the nod resigned and stood as an independent and won , you could have Labour verses the rest here and they would still win.

I always vote though.

Haystack , problem is that if there is a small swing against Cons they lose a dispraportionate number of seats.

Dil - if sylvia hermon is your mp, as assuredly she must be as the only indie mp, then your comment that without her, labour would win the north down seat hands down (sorry!) every time, does look remotely correct - or is ulster unionist synonymous with labour?

As do Labour. That's why Thatcher got such a big majority. The ONLY way to get a referendum is to vote Conservative. It also has to be an actual majority for the Consetvatives as a Lib coalition would not accept it.

Ulster Unionists are the old Conservative & Unionist party, which was the official name of the Conservative party.

The Ulster Unionists indicated that the price of support after the 2010 election was substantial investment in NI. The Conservatives considered going it alone with the Unionists.

The SNP said they would consider supporting the Conservatives for a few favours. They have another 6 MPs.

The answer my friends is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.


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Hays,

What odds do you give me a Labour controlled government in 2016?

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I hear Clarke has similar views on Europe to what will be what many of the silent majority will form in 2017.

Until then the tory looney right party and rabid frenetic euro-phobic UKIP can bark as much they wish, but remain impotent.

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I know some are supposed to be hunting men but the they seem more like pack animals.

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Cameron, decision to have the referendum and bow to his R/Wing is likely to provoke uncertainty and to lead to overseas investment, which would have been invested in the UK going to other European countries.

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Daft.

Cameron, decision to have the referendum and bow to his R/Wing is likely to provoke uncertainty and to lead to overseas investment, which would have been invested in the UK going to other European countries.

Whoaaaa, Tiger.

That's the bog-standard argument presented by euro-philes since time immemorial. Switzerland are land-locked in central Europe. Has not being in the EU ever done them any harm?

Here's a pretty piccie of where UK exports go:



Do you really think that the US, Russia, Canada, India, China and Australia are gonna stop buying our bags of goodies if we're not in the EU.

And Germany, the second largest importer of our goods and to whom we export a whopping £27.5bn worth of stuff each year, actually sells us £41.1bn of their own stuff in return. It really wouldn't be in their best interests to cut both ends off the supply chain so, if we leave the EU, I suspect they'll be at the front of the queue pressing the rest of Federal Europe to open a free-trade agreement with us.

Oh, and if you listen to Barry the Kenyan advising against a UK exit on last night's news, the only reason the US want us to stay inside the EU is because nobody in the White House can speak a word of French or German. We're their passport to Europe - otherwise they wouldn't give a flying fcuk.