Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays......... poll of polls yesterday had labour 8% ahead still.

Ill try and find it.

Here we are.......

electionista‏@electionista19 May

UK - average of polls, 7-day change: CON 28.7%(-0.7), LAB 37.1%(-1.2), LDEM 9.2%(-1.3), UKIP 16%(+1.8)

Thing is this leads the back door open for a labour overal majority.

Commentating on the figs.......

David Buik‏@truemagic6810h

Its time to call time on the coalition! PM Cameron should go it alone. Why let an economically illiterate Labour party in by the back door?.............


LOL David not one Torry economist in the cabinet. Labour have 900% more qualified personnel in the shadow cabinet and Rachel Reeves is reputed to have the highest marks ever achieved at the London School Of Economics all bar 1, the late great Harold Wilson.

sorry sticky, but if the so-called economists (and share pundits) were that good, they'ld all be living in barbados or switzerland or similar (bermuda is far too claustrophobic)

Averages of polls are even worse than actual polls. It gives the illusion of being as c curate, but they are pretty much useless. If there are some badly wrong polls in the average then it distorts the average very much.

Cameron is an economist, with a first in PPE. His tutor, Professor Vernon Bogdanor, described him as "one of the ablest"students he has taught.

Ed Balls did the same degree at Oxford and Cameron. And Ed Balls went to public school as well.

Don't forget that Vince Cable is an economist (was chief economist at Shell).

Most actual economics are handled by the Treasury. They calculate the effects of policies that the Chancellor is interested in.

i confess i find it extraordinary how certain people have this hang-up over where others were educated .... indeed, by rattling on ad infinitum, they effectively admit that private education tends to produce a far better end-product, which is not necessarily true in any case

ditto about their parents' background and/or economic status ......

what a load of crap! ..... ultimately, we are all dealt a hand of cards, over which we have little or no control .... some then make good use and advantage of that, whereas others fall by the wayside

even the bible alludes to that!

How did the bible get in here. Why not quite the Beano as an authority? It is probably just as unreliable.

Cynic,

I don't think it is simply where a person is educated, or even their "academic" achievements, when coached and sometimes taught by rote and some may think instilled with with questionable values and "arrogances".

I think the problem is that their exposure to the general population and their "social" exposure and "hands on" experience of working and living conditions of "class 4 and 5". (Old classification.)

This is not universal to those of the public school.

I went to a grammar school, but was one of the few who had "summer" jobs and worked a manual labourer in a number industries, including mining and steel industry as well as railways and groundsman etc..

(This was not out of financial need, and due to being my father's son, I was more protected during those exposures than I realised until much older.)

It help me realise the luck I had to have the brawn and education and financial backing of my parents.

Other, more able buggers didn't. (That could be seen as and injustice.)

The authority seems to have spoken.

Hays refering to Cameron...... hes no economist stop talking rubbish....... poor mans way of getting an economic qualification.......... not even up to 'A' level economics.

Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics....PPE.

Cable you are right is only practised economist in cabinet but he got his qualifications whilst with LABOUR.

And I did post this have a look....

"LOL David not one Torry economist in the cabinet".................

Again Hays all your facts all wrong. 1 out of 10 for trying.

i'm just a simple soul and am have no intent of being drawn further than, as i wrote previously, ultimately, we are all dealt a hand of cards, over which we have little or no control .... some then make good use and advantage of that, whereas others fall by the wayside

JUST OUT ......labour take a commanding lead and TORIES fail miserably........

electionista ‏@electionista 14m

UK - YouGov/Sun poll: CON 27%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 16% - Conservatives equal record low hit in 2000

All the polls are wrong unless they agree with Haystack's viewpoint.

you guys have been hopping about like crazy over recent polls, but unless i am much mistaken, an 11 point lead over the incumbents is not taken by "those who know" as anything like sufficient at this juncture

what no one really knows, is how great a difference in seats that might make in a general election ...... from what i have read, even though ukip show 16% support at this point in the proceedings, it is unlikely to lead to them winning even a handful of seats ..... how much any votes ukip grabs will affect the marginal balance of the other parties is another of the great unknowns

Hays mate as spoken.......

Guido Fawkes ‏@GuidoFawkes 2m

Dave Delusional on Tory Disquiet

http://order-order.com/2013/05/22/dave-delusional-on-tory-disquiet/

I like post 25223.

Hands on experience in real life situation is something our prime ministers lack.

They don't know what is going on outside their small, controlled world.

gf
That means, by your logic, that Ed Balls is no economist as he did the same degree as Cameron at the same university.

Even with the 18% of voters forged the other day, UKIP would not a single seat!