goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 21 May 2013 20:43
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Cameron is an economist, with a first in PPE. His tutor, Professor Vernon Bogdanor, described him as "one of the ablest"students he has taught.
Ed Balls did the same degree at Oxford and Cameron. And Ed Balls went to public school as well.
Don't forget that Vince Cable is an economist (was chief economist at Shell).
Most actual economics are handled by the Treasury. They calculate the effects of policies that the Chancellor is interested in.
cynic
- 21 May 2013 20:51
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i confess i find it extraordinary how certain people have this hang-up over where others were educated .... indeed, by rattling on ad infinitum, they effectively admit that private education tends to produce a far better end-product, which is not necessarily true in any case
ditto about their parents' background and/or economic status ......
what a load of crap! ..... ultimately, we are all dealt a hand of cards, over which we have little or no control .... some then make good use and advantage of that, whereas others fall by the wayside
even the bible alludes to that!
Haystack
- 21 May 2013 21:04
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How did the bible get in here. Why not quite the Beano as an authority? It is probably just as unreliable.
Fred1new
- 21 May 2013 21:23
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Cynic,
I don't think it is simply where a person is educated, or even their "academic" achievements, when coached and sometimes taught by rote and some may think instilled with with questionable values and "arrogances".
I think the problem is that their exposure to the general population and their "social" exposure and "hands on" experience of working and living conditions of "class 4 and 5". (Old classification.)
This is not universal to those of the public school.
I went to a grammar school, but was one of the few who had "summer" jobs and worked a manual labourer in a number industries, including mining and steel industry as well as railways and groundsman etc..
(This was not out of financial need, and due to being my father's son, I was more protected during those exposures than I realised until much older.)
It help me realise the luck I had to have the brawn and education and financial backing of my parents.
Other, more able buggers didn't. (That could be seen as and injustice.)
Fred1new
- 21 May 2013 21:24
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The authority seems to have spoken.
goldfinger
- 22 May 2013 03:05
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Hays refering to Cameron...... hes no economist stop talking rubbish....... poor mans way of getting an economic qualification.......... not even up to 'A' level economics.
Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics....PPE.
Cable you are right is only practised economist in cabinet but he got his qualifications whilst with LABOUR.
And I did post this have a look....
"LOL David not one Torry economist in the cabinet".................
Again Hays all your facts all wrong. 1 out of 10 for trying.
cynic
- 22 May 2013 06:33
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i'm just a simple soul and am have no intent of being drawn further than, as i wrote previously, ultimately, we are all dealt a hand of cards, over which we have little or no control .... some then make good use and advantage of that, whereas others fall by the wayside
goldfinger
- 22 May 2013 08:17
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JUST OUT ......labour take a commanding lead and TORIES fail miserably........
electionista @electionista 14m
UK - YouGov/Sun poll: CON 27%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 16% - Conservatives equal record low hit in 2000
Dil
- 22 May 2013 08:24
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All the polls are wrong unless they agree with Haystack's viewpoint.
cynic
- 22 May 2013 08:25
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you guys have been hopping about like crazy over recent polls, but unless i am much mistaken, an 11 point lead over the incumbents is not taken by "those who know" as anything like sufficient at this juncture
what no one really knows, is how great a difference in seats that might make in a general election ...... from what i have read, even though ukip show 16% support at this point in the proceedings, it is unlikely to lead to them winning even a handful of seats ..... how much any votes ukip grabs will affect the marginal balance of the other parties is another of the great unknowns
goldfinger
- 22 May 2013 08:55
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Hays mate as spoken.......
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes 2m
Dave Delusional on Tory Disquiet
http://order-order.com/2013/05/22/dave-delusional-on-tory-disquiet/
ahoj
- 22 May 2013 09:35
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I like post 25223.
Hands on experience in real life situation is something our prime ministers lack.
They don't know what is going on outside their small, controlled world.
Haystack
- 22 May 2013 11:15
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gf
That means, by your logic, that Ed Balls is no economist as he did the same degree as Cameron at the same university.
Haystack
- 22 May 2013 11:17
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Even with the 18% of voters forged the other day, UKIP would not a single seat!
ahoj
- 22 May 2013 11:19
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The problem is that they are out of touch.
They don't have real life experience. Our princes are more normal people than them.
Haystack
- 22 May 2013 11:21
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All these supposed problems in the Conservative party are very temporary. All parties go through this. The media is just jumping on it. In a few months as the economy grows the picture is going to change.
ahoj
- 22 May 2013 11:25
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You will be right if the boys start changing course. They are not spending on infrastructure at all.
hilary
- 22 May 2013 11:39
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Actually, they are spending on infrastructure and have been doing so for the past year or two.
The funny thing is that it's only governments who have the balls to look upon spending as an investment. When it comes to normal households.....
aldwickk
- 22 May 2013 12:57
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Boris Johnson next PM
ahoj
- 22 May 2013 13:03
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He is great. Biking on the streets gave him enough exposure to real life issues. He will not come forward though.