goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 23 May 2013 12:07
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d4
One of the biggest causes is the huge amount of immigration that brings in people with very different cultural values.
The cause of the immigration increase is Labour's wish to bring in largely poor people to alter the demographics of voters to further socialist aims. This policy has been revealed several times via leaked Labour emails.
goldfinger
- 23 May 2013 12:16
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Hays I dont give a jot what party she is from, If shes dodging tax she should get done...........simple as that.
Please dont forget Im a floating voter having voted twice for both labour and conservative.
I support labour at the moment because Cameron and Osbourne are both useless totaly incompetent and nobody behind them are any good either.
skinny
- 23 May 2013 12:33
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London attacker British, of Nigerian origin - source
(Reuters) - British authorities have established that one and possibly both of the men who hacked a soldier to death on a London street was born in Britain of Nigerian descent, a source with knowledge of the investigation said on Thursday.
Local media named the man who was definitely born in the country as 28-year-old Michael Adebolajo and said police raided the home of his Nigerian family in a village near the eastern English city of Lincoln. Both men appeared to have converted to Islam from Christian immigrant backgrounds, British media said.
TANKER
- 23 May 2013 12:34
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gold then you should join myself and thousands of others and vote UKIP
and lets start to get our country back and get rid of these benefit immigrants
bleeding our services to bust the NHS schools all going down under the mass
of migrants flooding the system .
migrants are paid low wages and pay no taxes that is for 90% of them cleaning cars
on farms all paid by a pay master paying the lowest pay they can
UKIP is the only party to take action .
I have vote CONSERVATIVE ALONG WITH MY FAMILIE AND FRIENDS ALL OUR LIVES
WE HAVE NOW HAD ENOUGH VOTE UKIP UKIP UKIP
stable
- 23 May 2013 12:36
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Oh to have such a simple mind as some on this thread, who only hear, read and speak with those that agree with them as all others are always wrong. If life was so simple.
TANKER
- 23 May 2013 12:37
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when any one acts against the uk they no longer belong to the uk deport them to any country to let them take the action they want
that is the only answer fact
and no other answer
goldfinger
- 23 May 2013 12:56
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stable its a free board, say what you have to say.
TANKER
- 23 May 2013 13:00
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stable life is so simple its just that some human scum think they no better
a virus you can not see will kill you no matter who you are
that is how simple life is and if you are really lucky you might live for around 70 years
a blink of the eye in time .
ahoj
- 23 May 2013 13:07
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Tanker,
I agree with many of your points, but you generalise everything too much and mixing up everything.
You cannot talk about all migrants in the same way. I think the law is too kind to criminals, and follow advise from the Criminal Right, so called Human Right, activists.
Free education, NHS, emergency and other services for non-British are all wrong.
They should pay for many of these like in Germany, US, France and other developed countries.
Americans are probably to extreme though. In 1995, I was attacked in Chicago by four youngsters in train station while going to the airport to come back to the UK. My ribs were broken and all my body was in serious pain. Police asked if I want Ambulance, it may cost you around $700-$1000 for x-rays etc, can you pay? I said no, don't call them. I asked it he could help me to find my way to airport. He gave me directions to the airport (I was confused, no glasses to see, lost almost everything, etc). He said he is not able to help anymore, and left me alone. I pulled my bag in pain and managed to get on board minutes before the flight left.
stable
- 23 May 2013 13:19
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Goldfinger, I feel it is of very little use to join you or tanker or fred in discussion as you are unable to discuss, it seems to me that you all seem to believe that you are the way and the light, and nobody elses views are tollerable. Nobody is that correct.
goldfinger
- 23 May 2013 13:29
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Tend to find though migrants in US live the US way, whereas here a lot want to set up gettos and live the way they did in their country of birth rather than take on the British life. When I lived in US all differing races etc mixed and got on well.
And yes if you havent contributed a minimum amount no services should be available to you unless you pay for them. If you have insurance that would be ok.
This is where I disagree with a lot of people, even if you are a millionaire and contributed you should get winter fuel help, free bus pass and free prescriptions.
If you havented contributed you get nothing, simple as that.
ahoj
- 23 May 2013 13:55
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Read part of Putin’s Speech:
On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:
"In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions AR e not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians."
The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a standing ovation for FIVE minutes.
stable
- 23 May 2013 14:24
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Ahoj and others. There is very much that is being said about what we would like to see happening to imigrants into this country that i support, but, I also understand that there is no instant solution. We as a nation and as leader of the commonwealth have encouraged and in many ways welcomed newcomers into here as it has suited us very well. It does not suit as now but u cannot just turn the tap off. i agree that do here as we would do, honour our laws and respect our society, we in turn will help you to settle but not with an open ended parcel of money. remember that most of those abusing the welfare system are born in this county, but i would also stop the way that family support can be transfered back to the original homeland, this is too generous. I would also stop all overseas aid to corrupt governments(who decides the term corrupt as in some countries corruption is the norm).
Putin and Russia has been mentioned , much easier for them to make the rules, until very recently they were a great exporter of people, only now is the country looking attractive, but from what is printed not for the black coloured people.
TANKER
- 23 May 2013 14:35
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lets look at the facts immigrants are more racist they do not want to mix with locals
in any town or city they do not want to speak English so why the fcuk atre they coming it is simple for the benefits
time to kick them out and stop all benefits and nhs and schools
stable
- 23 May 2013 14:38
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Tanker, what facts, u talk a lot of saloon bar drivel that is shouted about by people who know very little but love the sound of their voices.
Where are your facts. The majority of immigrants are wanting to improve their lot, and as I said before we have been to generous but it will not be easy just to stop.
TANKER
- 23 May 2013 14:45
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Rochdale oxford telford Liverpool burnley Birmingham Rotherham
gangs of muslims raping children
takeaway restaurants full of illegal workers sleeping on the floors
89% of crime is by immigrants read the facts stable or do you turn a blind eye
and to sum it all up their families blame the children
that's howsick these scum are
goldfinger
- 23 May 2013 15:05
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stable- 23 May 2013 13:19 - 25310 of 25316
Goldfinger, I feel it is of very little use to join you or tanker or fred in discussion as you are unable to discuss, it seems to me that you all seem to believe that you are the way and the light, and nobody elses views are tollerable. Nobody is that correct.................ends
So lets get this right stable you think because of your politics the likes of Hays and cynic are the right ways.......LOL those 2 are most unflexible people I have ever come across.
It appears you want your cake and also to eat it.
stable
- 23 May 2013 15:25
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Golfinger
U will have noticed that I dont usualy join in the conversations on this board as so many are not prepared to admit that there could be another opinion. As to Haystack and Cynic, I have not mentioned them before as I believe that Cynic utters most with a tounge in cheek way to stir the crowd and as he is a keen golfer at least he has some principles.Haystack and you do rubb each other up and as for recent baiting u both re opiniom polls I feel a draw should be scored, but what does surprise me is two intelligent grown men can find the effort to arque over such a subject which reminds me of horse racing, looks honest but very corrupt under the edges.
Haystack
- 23 May 2013 15:31
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Well said
stable
- 23 May 2013 15:33
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Tanker, what you are unable to understand is that although many people who are convicted have non british names that does not make them immigrants.
Re those horrible rapes, if there were 20people involved in each case the number involved would be lass than 300 , please advise me the fact and tell me how many of those were immigrants , and how many were 'educated' in this country. No I dont turn a blind eye to what has happened, but I am not going to just blame immigrants for all our problems. I also blame people like u who seemingly willnot or have not tried to assimilate people with color and faiths into this country.
If the attitude of your had been maintained during the 50's to 70' we would not have a transport or health service